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    Question about sus/dec

    This is my first cycle, and im going to run 200deca and sus250....is that enough test with deca ? Am i going to see reasonable gains? If anyone has had experience with either please let me know.

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    all day we answer thse questions. for a first cycle run 400-500mg test for 12 weeks with pct and that is it. NOTHING ELSE!!!!!

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    haha sorry to keep askin the question then..

    do you think sus is a good test to run for the first cycle? or is it not enough.

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    sus is OK the problem is it should be injected EOD which is a lot for a first timer. Test enan you can inject twice a week which is nice when getting used to the needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiftinJ345
    This is my first cycle, and im going to run 200deca and sus250....is that enough test with deca? Am i going to see reasonable gains? If anyone has had experience with either please let me know.
    200mg deca isnt enough and 250mg sust isnt enough. You need to run the sust at least 500mg per week, INJECTING IT EOD, to unsure blood levels keep stable. The deca should be run at 400mg per week, you will see VERY minimal results with 200mg per week. You also need to have PCT thought out as well.

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    i think im gunna scratch the sus/deca cycle and go with test enanthate ...

    good test to start on first cycle?

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    very good test to start with. its how i started. make sure you got PCT and anti-es.

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    im about 170 with 8%bf.....you got a reccomendation on a how long/amount i should use

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    yeah thats what u should do.. 500mg/wk of it. u got pct ready?

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    400-500mg/week for 12 weeks. PCT two weeks after that 300mg clomid day one 100mg days 2-14 50mg days 15-21.

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    im going to order the clomid thru the anabolicreview-research site...and i will run 20mg of nolva also for my anties.

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    The only ****ty problem is, its 29$/vile and each vile has 250mg....
    how much do you guys pay for your test ethan?

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    per vial as in 10cc. you would need 3 bottle at 500mg/week to go 12 weeks.

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    i guess i don't see how that price is a problem

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    hey frky do u have a way i can talk to u besides the forum apparently i cant PM which sucks

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    email me at frkybgstok4@hushmail.com or visit www.elite-pro-bodybuilding.com i am a supermod there and you can PM me on that.

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    thanks bro i sent u a PM at the other forum

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