05-03-2005, 05:09 PM #1
Bros I Need Immediate Help Please Concerning Cycle
ok i ****ing trusted the wrong person, and I got a 10ml bottle of test prop at 100mg and a 10ml bottle of deca at 300ml. THIS STUFF IS SHIT, im such an idiot I saw the brands (quality vet and animal power) and i forgot to look at the dosages, which I now realize are basically nothing. Im already on week 6...what do i do!! is it too late to switch to another steroid , should I stack something, I have connects but I need immediate help pleeeease, its already so ****ing late into my cycle, god im going to beat the fat **** that sold me this shit into a wall when i see him. HELP PLEASE. ill be back in 30 min i need to go ice my and i just took a door off its hinges.
05-03-2005, 05:16 PM #2
05-03-2005, 05:16 PM #3
how have you been taking it? 6 weeks in with only 10ml's of prop? you should be done that in maximum 20 days. 300 ml deca is ok but the test needs to be higher than the deca. what is your cycle experience? i would switch to test enathate 500mg per week and deca at 300 per week. make sure you run nolvadex inthere around 10 - 20 mg per day. you can't blame this on someone else if you didn't do the research or look at the labels. i don't care who i get my stuff from. if it was my own mother i would still make sure of what i was getting. by the way how old are you? i wouldn't be proud of ripping a door off it's hinges. i'd be more proed of keeping it together and controlling my temper
05-03-2005, 05:27 PM #4
im 26 ive been working out naturally since i was 16 and this is my 2nd cycle I want to start getting into more competitions, so plz dont flame me I just need some advice, you dont have to tell me im a ****ing idiot for not looking at the dosages, I can tell you that myself. I can also tell you that im a ****ing idiot for knocking a door off the wall, and if i didnt already know that I will when i realize that I have to pay to get a new one and waste time putting a door back up that worked perfectly fine, its really depressing how people come here for advice and end up getting flamed so badly. i thought the guy who sold it to me was like a father figure....trust nobody i guess. Heres what ive been running for the past 5 weeks actually..my week 6 starts on friday
w2 - PD
(each letter = one CC, and once again the test is at 100mg the deca is at 300mg).
What should i do how can i save this shitty cycle
05-03-2005, 05:35 PM #5
Bro I did the same thing with test and eq, I just uped my dosages to where fellow brothern advised and getting great results, you can allows extend cycleJMO
05-03-2005, 05:44 PM #6
muscle im sorry u werent that mean in ur post...really bad mood. thank u for the advice
05-03-2005, 05:49 PM #7Originally Posted by Luminaire
They are shyt becuase of the dosages ? Prop is usually at 100mg/ml
You really don't have enough prop for a good cycle anyway. a twelve weeker is 84 shots...unless of course you are just going to be using it for wks 1-4 as a jump. even then you will need atleast 12 inj.
05-03-2005, 05:54 PM #8AnabolicAlien Guest
This is the reason people think juice-heads are morons. You're angry with the guy who sold it to you and you ripped a door off the hinges??? Come on boy, grow up. I'm not flaming, just trying to give you a little wake up call. Take some responsibility, research for yourself, and act like an adult.
Based simply on the behavior you've displayed I'd say you're no where near ready to use anabolic steroids . They should be used by serious, mature, educated people.
05-03-2005, 05:54 PM #9
05-03-2005, 05:58 PM #10
for the record Im also dealing with a TON of personal shit, A TON, and the fact that someone i almost considered myself trust with my life would gyp me like that...i said it was stupid for me to do i just flipped...well whatever flame on i suppose
05-03-2005, 05:58 PM #11Originally Posted by Luminaire
Why ? So you are taking a half cc of prop eod or ed ?
05-03-2005, 06:03 PM #12
whats eod? the test prop is 100mg/cc, so as you can see ala week 5, (PPD) im doing two CC shots of prop which is 100+100=200, and then the 1cc of dec which is 300mg
05-03-2005, 06:06 PM #13Associate Member
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How do you think you got jipped? I mean if you recieved real gear and that is usually the way those two compounds are dosed, the only delimma is you did not buy enough. Or did the guy specificly say that that would be enough for the entire cycle? If he did not say that, you are to blame, not him
05-03-2005, 06:10 PM #14Originally Posted by Luminaire
Test prop should be shot either ed or eod ( everyday or Every other day).
Keeps the blood levels stable, it is said by some that ed is better, less sides.
Do you have Nolva or Clomid?
05-03-2005, 06:12 PM #15Originally Posted by Luminaire
05-03-2005, 06:13 PM #16
here, man, prop needs to be shot every day at 50 mg/day or 100 mg eod (every other day). you can't shoot prop once a week. it has a short ester, after 3 days, only half the dose you shot is left in your body, then 3 more days later half of that dose is left in your body.
the guy who sold it to you didn't f*** you up, bro. simple as this, here's what you do to fix it.
1. buy more test prop
2. start injecting it either 50 mg every day or 100 mg every other day (because it needs to be run higher than the deca so your penis won't go limp)
3. you need to buy anti-estrogen drugs, such as nolvadex and arimadex
4. you need clomid to run for pct to restore your natural test after your cycle is finished so you keep all your gains.
Hope this helps.
05-03-2005, 06:16 PM #17
The advice is go buy some more test. I would buy more prop and do 1oomg eod for the remainder of your planned cycle. Do you know anything about post cycle therapy ?
05-03-2005, 06:24 PM #18Originally Posted by Luminaire
05-03-2005, 06:26 PM #19
yeah he wrote out the cycle for me and he told me that was enough...yeah I just made a few phone alls soudns like I just need to really up my dosages of prop....hows this sound:
I have 6cc's left or Prop and 4 cc's of deca . Ill buy 2 more 10ml bottles of prop and this should work....
Week 7- 300mg prop/300mg deca
Week 8 - 350mg prop/ 300mg deca
week 9 - 400mg prop/ 200mg deca
week 10 - 400mg prop/ 200mg deca
week 11 - 300mg prop/150mg deca
week 12- 250mgprop/150mg deca
week 13- 200mgprop/150mg deca
week 14 100mgprop/150mg deca
Ill also be running nolva starting week 7, and ill figure out what to do with post therapy in a bit. this is real bootleg by the way ill prob tweak it a little.
05-03-2005, 06:36 PM #20Originally Posted by Luminaire
05-03-2005, 06:47 PM #21
05-03-2005, 07:16 PM #22
i just can't contain myself anymore
05-03-2005, 07:16 PM #23
05-03-2005, 07:19 PM #24
ill be honest really dont use this site much for the steroids forums....plz dont flame me im sorry I just want to try and save the remaineder of my cycle....Ive been looking at previous posts but I feel like my situation is unique as im already at week 6....albeit ive been doing such low dosages
05-03-2005, 07:25 PM #25
for my previous post
Originally Posted by hulkzer
05-03-2005, 07:26 PM #26Originally Posted by Luminaire
Why are you having some guy plan out something that is for your body.
And then trust him enough to get you legit stuff, but not enough.
Why did you start a cycle without proper planning ? Or proper knowledge of what you are going to be putting into your body.
IMO you are the poster boy of what not to do when starting a cycle.
With the lack of research on your part, coming to us after you've started, is a sure fire way to get flamed..
And again, Do you have nolvadex or clomid on hand ?
You haven't explained why you think the stuff is either fake, or SHyT as you put it?
05-03-2005, 07:32 PM #27Originally Posted by Luminaire
05-03-2005, 09:17 PM #28
Man..just calm down, be happy U caught it now,
and as mentioned, u could always extend the cycle.
Get the rest of the gear U need, and PCT, and follow
the advice given to you by longhorn. You should read up
when U can, U want to keep those gains. Good Luck
Worry about that clown later....
05-03-2005, 11:54 PM #29Associate Member
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05-04-2005, 12:22 AM #30
listen to longhorn... he is right...dont pyramid, that stuff was oldschool before real pct came to play.. you could still pull a great cycle out of this. run 400mg of prop a week and 300mg of deca a week for the remainder of the cycle. stop taking deca 2 1/2 weeks before you stop taking the prop.. then start post cycle with clomid...you"ll be fine
05-04-2005, 12:30 AM #31
dont forget every other day #eod# injections with the prop..is crucial for prop cycle
05-04-2005, 07:42 AM #32
i got my clomid and nolva on hand, im going to start running prop at 400 and the dec at 300...and pick up some more needles for eod...guys thank you so much i really appreciate all the help!
05-04-2005, 07:50 AM #33Originally Posted by Luminaire
Please explain this ?
05-04-2005, 07:56 AM #34AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
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05-04-2005, 08:10 AM #35
lol i told you im kind of a steroid newbie, the dosages are fine its the quantity that was the problem, anyway
week 6- 400mg test/300mg deca
week 7- 400mg test/300mg deca
week 8- 400mg test/300mg deca
week 9- 400mg test/300mg deca
week 10- 400mg test/300mg deca
week 11 - 400mg test
week 12- 400mg test
week 13+ *PCT*, i do have clomid and nolva on hand, should i start throwing nolva in around week 7 or 8, also this isn't a huge cycle should i throw some HCG into my post cycle?
05-04-2005, 08:38 AM #36Originally Posted by Luminaire
05-05-2005, 02:33 PM #37
Nothing wrong with your gear, and no, you are not an idiot, necessarily. You can run prop with deca ... try 300mg/week deca, 75mg/ED prop. Run the prop 4 weeks past the deca, then start your pct a week after you finish your prop. Deca needs to be at least 10 weeks, and 12 is better. You might want some hcg , 250iu/E3D or something like that, beginning in week 8 or 9... whatever. Definitely have some the last couple weeks of your cycle. It will help put the brakes on the deca dick and speed your recovery somewhat. So, if you got enough deca to finish out at least 10 weeks minimum, just get some more prop. It will be fine. I would rather use enanth or cyp right from the start, and shoot both test and deca 2x/week in the same syringe, but it really is no biggie as long as you allow for the different half lives when you come off. Test should be the last AAS left in your body as you clean up and get ready for pct.
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