i am planning a tren/test/var cycle and am aiming to effectively cut and bulk at the same time
many say this cant be done, but i believe i can do it
i will also be running ephedrine 2weeks followed by clen 2 weeks for the duration
along with glutamine
very high protein
only 1 or 2 carb meals a day
place your votes now
its difficult but it can be done, it all comes down to very balanced and well thought dieting.
you have too messure and time everything correct.
i've done it several times before a comp with roids but now with the help of gh/slin/t3 its def a lot easyer.
-rodge
im currently on a dbol, test prop, and sust 250 with t3 and i think my body fat has dropped considerably ...im siked about the changes
My experience with Test C has been that I have gained strength, lean muscle, and dropped bodyfat.
I know it is suppose to be nearly impossible, but that is how my body is working. My diet is very clean though.
It is possible even without steroids. It requires much detail to diet and training, but can be done. Along with your low carb high protein diet, add essential fats in the form of flax oil, nuts, and natural pb. This will be a great way to increase calories.
my current cycle of test e, eq, and var is doing just that
of course its possible,..all diet and cardio
its possible but it is mostly accomplished
by a fine tuned diet, and a solid training regime.
AAS just accelerated it a bit.
It's All About Your Diet
I do not understand the confusion on this topic, Yes it is possible. Those that say otherwise are just saying it as a cop-out. It may take some attention and work, but it is very possible.
Of course it's possible, there's nothing even to debate about.
yes...
Im on that route now,like everyone has
stated, diet is very important. Keep those
protein grams up there, hard work...its possible
of course it can be done. i'm doing it right now. loosing fat while weight has gone up a bit and strength is up a lot. i'm doing the same thing you want to. and whoever says that enanthates can't be used for cutting are full of crap!
400mg/wk test enan
300mg/wk tren enan
60mgED Var
Possible? Yes. Easier though, to just do bulking and cutting cycles, IMHO. Or do a very long cycle, at least 15 weeks, with the first part more oriented toward bulking and the last part more like a cutting cycle. Results of trying to reduce fat and add muscle at the same time can be less than spectacular. You should be content with fairly modest improvements if that is what you want to do, and your diet has to be spot-on, with good control of caloric intake.
i don't know why so many people get in in their heads that it's impossible, i've seen it all the time. the question is why try - it's more efficient to bulk then cut. why gain 20 pounds a year if you can gain 30 and still end up with lower bodyfat?
long term, or to peak for a competition, it just desn't make sense. however, i guess it does make sense if you want to gain a few pounds while looking ripped at the beach all summer :)
I think just about everyone that has done a test only cycle without 18 whoppers a day has experienced an increase in fat free body mass along with increased lean muscle. Then when you start throwing in trenbolones, T3, Clenbuterol, GH and antiestrogens i think its almost impossible not to if you plan a sound cycle with a diet and workout regiment that compliments your goals. Of course while you're bulking you definitely gain more muscle, i think its fairly easy to gain muscle and lose bodyfat.
its all on the routine!
cheers for your input guys
this poll was brought about by anothyer discussion i was having
if anyones interested here is the link
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/166865-tren-anavar-test-cutter-cycle-questions.html
my cycle is as follows
weeks 1 -12 Tren 50mg EOD
weeks 1 - 12 sust 125mg EOD
weeks 5- 12 anavar 50mg ED
do you think i could attempt to bulk at the start of this cycle with the use of Anadrol for 4 weeks ( with the appropriate changes in my diet and training)
or will all these orals be a bad idea?
is anavar even that liver toxic?
var is liver toxic, just not as much as winny, drol, dbol, etc. you still need liver protectors. if the drol wasn't that high, then you'd be alright.
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Originally Posted by wired-up
100mg drol ED - 4weeks?
if you ran that the first 4, then started the var on week 5, i think you'd be alright.
thats what i was planning