my friedn is in critical condition hes lungs collapsed i think it might be the roids

**cutmass** · 04-20-2005, 05:19 PM

i just got a call from my friends wife that my buddy is in the hospital. i coudnt really understand her but she said that one of his lungs collapse and that he couldnt breath. they rushed him to the hospital and is in crittical condition at the icu unit at the hospital im on my way over there to see him ill let u know more bout this for those of u interested, i hope it was not triggered by steriods

**Nelstar** · 04-20-2005, 05:20 PM

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**SwoleCat** · 04-20-2005, 05:34 PM

I'm not sure how AAS would cause a lung collapse, but I'm no doctor either.

Hope your buddy is okay though, that's for sure.

~SC~

**Jantzen4k** · 04-20-2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I'm not sure how AAS would cause a lung collapse, but I'm no doctor either.

Hope your buddy is okay though, that's for sure.

~SC~

same

**BodyMechanic** · 04-20-2005, 08:20 PM

I hope your buddy is ok, but don't go saying that you have no idea what caused it, that is why we have all of these misconceptions about gear. I have never heard of anything lung related to gear.

**Aboot** · 04-20-2005, 08:26 PM

Steroids would have nothing to do with a possible collapsed lung. Fluid as a result of heart disease brought on in part by steroid use maybe, but not a collapsed lung.

Never the less, I hope your friend recovers.

**Unoid** · 04-20-2005, 10:04 PM

Pulmonary Edema yes, if hes got a bad heart that was triggered by the roids (higher BP etc). But pneumothorax and total collapsing is unassociated with gear. Unless maybe he dropped a 100lb DB on his lung. lol Hope he makes it out ok.

**colossus1** · 04-20-2005, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by cutmass

i hope it was not triggered by steriods

I hope you are joking.

**symatech** · 04-20-2005, 10:08 PM

I wish your friend all the best and his wife as well. But I do not think this has to do with steroids .

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-20-2005, 10:14 PM

Definately not from the steroids .

**MuscleQuest** · 04-20-2005, 10:40 PM

always bad to hear a bro going down. hope it turns out ok. SwoleCat you either have to loose the jessica alba thing or email it to me. i'm trying to spank my computer screen and it's messing up the color

**1-Cent** · 04-20-2005, 10:54 PM

I stubbed my toe while looking for a beer in the basement... I hope it wasn't triggered by the steroids

**Meso** · 04-20-2005, 10:58 PM

Let us no how he turns out and the cause. Hope he's ok.

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11

Definately not from the steroids.

how do u know

could be anything and yes, could be related to steroids ...

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-21-2005, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

how do u know

could be anything and yes, could be related to steroids...

I highly doubt it bro...

**MaxPayne** · 04-21-2005, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11

Definately not from the steroids.

Are you a doctor?

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-21-2005, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by MaxPayne

Are you a doctor?

Are you a retard? Did you not see the five other people above say it wasn't steroid related either? Common knowledge should tell you steroids won't cause a collapse of the lungs.

**MaxPayne** · 04-21-2005, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11

Are you a retard? Did you not see the five other people above say it wasn't steroid related either? Common knowledge should tell you steroids won't cause a collapse of the lungs.

Are they doctors either?You my friend are a ignorant troll.GTFO of AR.

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-21-2005, 02:08 AM

Who the hell are you?
GTFO?

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 02:09 AM

calm down ppl.

if he took steroids and/or clen , ephedrine it could be from the juice. we dunno enuff but still, it could be from steroids. there have been few cases of multiple organ failure.

**Aboot** · 04-21-2005, 02:11 AM

If it is indeed a collapsed lung there is almost no way it is directly related to steroid use . But before we get into a retarded internet shouting match, how about some facts:

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...339/23667.html

**BOUNCER** · 04-21-2005, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by MaxPayne

Are they doctors either?You my friend are a ignorant troll.GTFO of AR.

Your threading on thin ice. We don't put up with this sh*t here on AR. YoungSlug has shown where his loyalty lies with us here, I have his back.

**MaxPayne** · 04-21-2005, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

Your threading on thin ice. We don't put up with this sh*t here on AR. YoungSlug has shown where his loyalty lies with us here, I have his back.

He diddn't have to call me names for no reason.I am concerned for a bro who went down and anyone who may be in the same situation.

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-21-2005, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

Your threading on thin ice. We don't put up with this sh*t here on AR. YoungSlug has shown where his loyalty lies with us here, I have his back.

Thanks BOUNCER.

**firenwire** · 04-21-2005, 02:25 AM

If there was no type of injury or trauma, it sounds like a spontainious pnuemothorax that developed into a tension pnuemothorax. Usually the patient just gets a couple of chest tubes for 2 - 3 days and go on about thier lives.

This is most common in tall thin white males. But can happen to anyone. Usually ICU admission will be for resp. monitoring or support. So either he is on a vent or they are waiting for the weaken area to repair itself. Surgical repair is usually a last ditch option (Never seen it done in 5+ years)

I doubt its related to gear, and chances are they don't care what his Test count is. But I know more about the pnuemothoraxs than I do AAS.

GL bro

FnW

**YounG_SluG11** · 04-21-2005, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by MaxPayne

He diddn't have to call me names for no reason.I am concerned for a bro who went down and anyone who may be in the same situation.

I'm not here to fight bro, have a nice day.

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by firenwire

If there was no type of injury or trauma, it sounds like a spontainious pnuemothorax that developed into a tension pnuemothorax. Usually the patient just gets a couple of chest tubes for 2 - 3 days and go on about thier lives.

This is most common in tall thin white males. But can happen to anyone. Usually ICU admission will be for resp. monitoring or support. So either he is on a vent or they are waiting for the weaken area to repair itself. Surgical repair is usually a last ditch option (Never seen it done in 5+ years)

I doubt its related to gear, and chances are they don't care what his Test count is. But I know more about the pnuemothoraxs than I do AAS.

GL bro

FnW

thanks for the explanation. r u a doc or a medical student?

**firenwire** · 04-21-2005, 03:10 AM

neither, I just watch ALOT of TV.

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by firenwire

neither, I just watch ALOT of TV.

**trailboss** · 04-21-2005, 04:19 AM

I dunno bro's...I got a collapsed lung from steroids ...thats why I dont snort my test anymore...I have learned to love needles...

**firenwire** · 04-21-2005, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by trailboss

I dunno bro's...I got a collapsed lung from steroids...thats why I dont snort my test anymore...I have learned to love needles...

I seemed to over looked a factor when making my initial statement. Who in the **** snorts steroids

? I'm somewhat new to the life style, and would of never thought of that.

**Aboot** · 04-21-2005, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by firenwire

I seemed to over looked a factor when making my initial statement. Who in the **** snorts steroids

? I'm somewhat new to the life style, and would of never thought of that.

Err, he was kidding.

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by trailboss

I dunno bro's...I got a collapsed lung from steroids...thats why I dont snort my test anymore...I have learned to love needles...

omg is this for real

**firenwire** · 04-21-2005, 06:08 AM

**OneEyedJohnny** · 04-21-2005, 07:00 AM

If it were a pneumothorax they should have inserted a chest tube ... and most likely did. Basically a "collapsed lung" is the layman's term for a pneumothorax, so pneumothorax=collapsed lung. Pneumothorax in an adult is caused by trauma (blunt or penetrating), COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, an umbrella term that includes emphysema, asthma, and chronic bronchitis), pneumonia, and pertussis (persistent coughing or whooping cough). I am a registered nurse and NO this would not have been directly caused by the roids, if his wife told the doctor that he was using roids and he said it was DIRECTLY caused by them they are straight out lying to get him to stop using them. The medical community is almost as judgemental and misinformed as the media is about steroid usage and stereotyping.

I hope your friend gets better, don't worry just because he is in ICU ... that is usually where they put those patients because they can insert chest tubes there (the run of the mill treatment) ... if he were on another floor they would have to send him to the operating room and they don't like tying up operating room time for simple procedures that can be done in ICU especially in busy hospitals. They will most likely also have him on antibiotics and monitor his lung sounds frequently, once the doctor thinks it is time to remove the chest tube they will take it out, stitch him up, and perform a chest x-ray to make sure every thing is okay ... they may also hold him for a day or 2 on a med-surg floor for observation and perform a repeat chest x-ray.

One Eye

**firenwire** · 04-21-2005, 07:17 AM

Wow you watch alot more TV than I do.

J/K

Paramedic/RN

***xxx*** · 04-21-2005, 07:22 AM

I am a registered nurse

**Powerup** · 04-21-2005, 07:55 AM

i have no idea about this but i will say this i had 1 friend and another person i knew well both steroid users one of them in paticular was very strong repping out with 600 pound squats etc...both of these guys ended up in hospital with lung problems one had water on the lung the other some other problem but more serious,,maybe coincidence i spose..but i read a thread here recently that said if you dont aspirate and gear gets into a vein then you may have a chance of some problems like water on the lung,so when i read that it made me wonder....

**The Baron** · 04-21-2005, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Aboot

Err, he was kidding.

One would hope, wouldn't one?

I can't think of any mechanism that would cause this in direct consequence to AAS use. I don't know everything, but I do know that I have never heard of this and can't see a connection.