What to expect???

[ZenDragon]

I'm 6'1 165lbs. Ripped but skinny, tring to get bigger like you guys. well mostly stronger. Strength with proper application = Power.What kind of results should I expect if I do this right?

Bench=185lbs
squat=195lbs

Cycle
500mg/Test E/week 1-10
200mg/Deca /week 1-10
40mg/D-bol/week 1-4

PCT
noveldex
clomid
P.S- shold itake 10mg of noveldex or 20mg a day?

[abstrack]

Oh god. Just eat bro. You need to post up a food cycle and grow/add weight like that

[1-Cent]

Don't expect anything at all , because you don't know how to diet

[ZenDragon]

I eat like at least 5000 colries a day. plus protien and weight gainer i eat a lot of high carb high protine meals. The problem is I train so hard areobicly that i burn off all calories and have a very high metabolism. Some people have a hard time gaining weight Just like some people have a hard time losing weight. Understand?

[clhp20]

I eat like at least 5000 colries a day. plus protien and weight gainer i eat a lot of high carb high protine meals. The problem is I train so hard areobicly that i burn off all calories and have a very high metabolism. Some people have a hard time gaining weight Just like some people have a hard time losing weight. Understand?

With as much cardio as you say you do, then i guess you have answered your own question. Stop the cardio and see how you gain weight/muscle. Post what you would normally eat in one day, give us the times also. from the time you wake up tell the time you go to bed. also put in the times you do cardio and train.

[deuce-is-loose]

i would bump up the deca bro !

[clhp20]

i would bump up the deca bro !

WTF for ?

[Consistency]

bench 185 and wants to use AAS???? How bout get some creatine

[1-Cent]

I eat like at least 5000 colries a day. plus protien and weight gainer i eat a lot of high carb high protine meals. The problem is I train so hard areobicly that i burn off all calories and have a very high metabolism. Some people have a hard time gaining weight Just like some people have a hard time losing weight. Understand?

I understand better than you do, I'm just as ectomorphic if not more so than you. I started at 5'10 135lbs, I just didn't know how to diet, like you. Trust me you don't even know what 5000 calories a day looks like, if you think you do its probably ice cream and candy bars which don't count

Start eating right and you'll grow. I don't know what you expect AAS to do if you can't grow naturaly, its not magic. If you can't grow now you'll never grow on AAS either, that material to build muscle with has to be there or nothing will happen and right now it's blatently obvious its not there or you wouldn't weigh 165lbs.

[ZenDragon]

OK, and I appriciate the feedback from people willing to help not put down.

10:30AM
protine mix+whole milk
some time of muffin
banana
creatine
11:00am
Weight lifting
flexibilty traning
1:00pm
heavy meal pasta, pizza, hambuger helper, + protine agin
6:00pm
same
10:00pm
cardio running, bag traning, shadow boxing, martial arts
12:00pm
protine + pasta or what ever is left


P.S.
days off of weight traing I do cardio twice substtuted for the weight tranning

[1-Cent]

OK, and I appriciate the feedback from people willing to help not put down.

10:30AM
protine mix+whole milk
some time of muffin
banana
creatine
11:00am
Weight lifting
flexibilty traning
1:00pm
heavy meal pasta, pizza, hambuger helper, + protine agin
6:00pm
same
10:00pm
cardio running, bag traning, shadow boxing, martial arts
12:00pm
protine + pasta or what ever is left


P.S.
days off of weight traing I do cardio twice substtuted for the weight tranning

Drop the cardio and double the meals to 8 per day. You must eat a small meal every 1.5-2 hours without exception. Thats what it takes for an ecto to grow, I've gone from 135 to 240lbs eating like this for about 7 or 8 years.

[clhp20]

You definately need to eat more, I bet you are barely getting in 2000 calories even with the shakes..
check out this thread, this should give you a better idea of what and how much to eat to gain weight.
The problem isn't that you are unable to gain weight, the problems is that your not giving your body enough food to gain weight.

[ZenDragon]

Drop the cardio and double the meals to 8 per day. You must eat a small meal every 1.5-2 hours without exception. Thats what it takes for an ecto to grow, I've gone from 135 to 240lbs eating like this for about 7 or 8 years.

240lbs ripped or 240lbs fat ass? j/k but yes, i dont want to put on that much weight i need to stay in certian weight class but i want to gain at least 25lbs.
I will diffnitly start eating more often thanx