05-12-2005, 09:58 AM #1
First Cycle Estro/Water Retention
Im getting ready to start my first cycle. Week 1-12: Test e/c (which ever I can get) Week 8-12: Test e/c and Winny.
What are the ideal anti-estrogens I should take while on this cycle and how often should I take it?
What can I take to prevent water retention?
Also, should I run only clomid in my PCT (2 weeks after last test/winny injections)?
05-12-2005, 10:02 AM #2
run winny from 10-14
test E 1-12 if its Test C it has a longer halflife by about 4 days so your going to have to move your Win run time back 4 days so it lines up w/ your pct
personally i hate win but GOOD LUCK!
05-12-2005, 10:08 AM #3
The only reason I'm running winny at the end to get rid of any water retention and to lean out. Winny will make me lean-out right? Also, why do you hate it? Its not too late NOT to take it. I have like 2 months before I would start the winny.
05-12-2005, 10:12 AM #4
winni drys me out HARD which sux for my knees totally stops all squatting and i have a nice widow's peak dont need it going any father back..
VAR > WIN by far..
05-12-2005, 10:17 AM #5
05-12-2005, 10:22 AM #6
winny kills your cholesterol values too. I would suggest Eq instead, then again Im not a big fan of any oral AAS. Getting lean really comes down to diet and cardio, not what gear you take too
05-12-2005, 10:23 AM #7
05-12-2005, 10:27 AM #8
05-12-2005, 10:30 AM #9
How is winny when it comes to vascularity?
05-12-2005, 10:31 AM #10
05-12-2005, 10:32 AM #11
Run the winny 8-14 or 10-14 which would line you up to pct. At 50mg per day and not running more than 6 weeks you should be fine. Also I would run nolva(nolvadex -tamoxifen citrate) 10mg ed with the entire cycle and bump nolva to 20mg during pct with the clomid. This should answer your original questions.
05-12-2005, 10:34 AM #12
oh yeah might wanna shoot winni ED or Drink it
05-12-2005, 09:59 PM #13
So you guys DO think drinking winny is as effective as injecting it?
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