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  1. 05-14-2005, 08:43 PM #1
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    Question Test and Winstrol

    Age: 22
    Height: 5'9"
    Weight: 180-185
    BF%: 13
    Experience: 2 years lifting; have NEVER used AAS
    Goal: Gain Size/strength and solidify my gains/leanout/reduce water retention

    Here is how my first cycle is looking. It has been critiqued several times by several people and I think I'm getting closer to a winner.

    Week 1-12: Ara-test (200mg test e 50mg test p) Monday and Thursday @ 300-320 mg. each day

    Week 9-12 (and 3 days): Add Winstrol Depot everyday @ 50mg.

    Week 12 (and 3 days)-14(and 3 days): Clomid Therapy
    Week 1: 300,100,100,100,100,100,100
    Week 2: 100,100,100,100,100,100,100
    Week 3: 50,50,50,50,50,50,50

    Week 1-14: Nolvadex everyday @ 20 mg (unless I can get liquidex or letro, in which case I may add them or substitute them. I'll run which ever will best keep my water down and reject gyno.)

    I'm also thinking about running clen or something during my PCT.

    My main concern is with the winny. I would like to run it 6 weeks, but the half-life of aratest makes me start my PCT 3 days after its last injection. Also, I'd like to give the test a full 8 weeks to work alone, since it is my first cycle.

    Do you guys think I will reach my goals with this cycle (Goal: Gain Size/strength and solidify my gains/leanout/reduce water retention)?

    Any advice or modifictaion suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
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  2. 05-14-2005, 09:36 PM #2
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    I dont want to be "that guy" but Im excited about this cycle. I think Im getting close to a decision, so... bump. lol
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  3. 05-15-2005, 05:46 AM #3
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    you could reach your goals, remember cardio and training
    but 3wks of winnys a waste imo


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  4. 05-15-2005, 05:46 PM #4
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    It would be 4 weeks, but you do you think that is not enough either? Should I run winny 6 weeks?
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  5. 05-15-2005, 05:50 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatic
    It would be 4 weeks, but you do you think that is not enough either? Should I run winny 6 weeks?
    Yeah, run it for 6 weeks.
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    When should I add the winny then? Am I right in thinking that I should start PCT 3 days after my last aratest injection, since it is 200mg test e and 50mg test p? Also, should I inject the test eod or twice/week?
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