Question About PCT

**kylew** · 05-16-2005, 11:31 AM

I'm starting a cycle on June 15th its going to be 12 weeks of Test E at 300mg per week for PCT I had just planned to use nolva only do you think this will be sufficient or do you think I will need HCG

1-12 Test E 300mg

PCT will be 3 weeks long this is what I've planned so far

days 1 - 5 60mg Nolva Per day
days 5- 10 30mg Nolva Per day
days 10 - 21 20mg Nolva per day

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2005, 11:33 AM

Use the nolva durring your cycle at 10mg ED but for PCT use clomid and nolva

Run it like this

day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

**rodge** · 05-16-2005, 11:34 AM

why wont you use clomid?

-rodge

RA · 05-16-2005, 11:34 AM

Some clomid would def help. Check out pheednos pct.

**TheMindOfRoss** · 05-16-2005, 11:34 AM

Agreed--PHEEDNO...

**kylew** · 05-16-2005, 11:38 AM

So I should use some Clomid I was under the impression that Nolva and Clomid were very simular except Nolva was stronger, what will running Clomid and nolva do as opposed just the nolva?

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by kylew

So I should use some Clomid I was under the impression that Nolva and Clomid were very simular except Nolva was stronger, what will running Clomid and nolva do as opposed just the nolva?

They are both SERMS but do not act on the same tissue....... Nolva will bind itself to the estrogen receptor so this is why it's better used as an anti-e..... where as clomid is able to get LH and FSH levels up to restore HPTA functions.

**kylew** · 05-16-2005, 11:50 AM

Ok got it do you think HCG would be good to use post cycle or just the nolva and clomid?

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2005, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by kylew

Ok got it do you think HCG would be good to use post cycle or just the nolva and clomid?

You will not need it on this cycle........ one thing you don't use HCG after your cycle but durring your cycle. If HCG is used durring PCT it will make clomid not work because your body is tricked into thinking that there is already high levels of LH in your system.

**kylew** · 05-16-2005, 12:07 PM

ok thanks for the help Mudman one more question though, I've read you can get damage to you vision from using Clomid has this happened to anyone and if it did how bad was the damage?

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by kylew

ok thanks for the help Mudman one more question though, I've read you can get damage to you vision from using Clomid has this happened to anyone and if it did how bad was the damage?

It's a side effect of clomid so not everyone will get it...... but people that do will see tracers that will effect thier vision.....