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    Cycle questions! need clarifying please!!

    Guys i have asked some of these before but still in limbo so can u try clarify them!!


    8 Week cycle


    Weeks 1-4 Dbol (25mg ed) or Turnabol (40mg ed)

    Weeks 1-8 - Test E @ 250mg every 5 days (or will it be a lot better to do 250mg on mon, 250mg on thurs...i.e will gains be a lot different?)
    - Nolva @ 20mg ed

    Weeks 8-10[/U] – Nolva @ 20mg ed



    PCT - 14days after last shot


    Day 1 - 60mg novla, 150mg clomid
    Day 2-11 - 40mg novla, 100mg clomid
    Day 12-21 - 20mg novla, 50mg clomid

    Days 1-14 Clen


    Questions

    1.) Weeks 1-4. will this make a big difference? What should I use as a kickstart…the dbol or tbol? (worried bout the sides on dbol)

    2.) Is the anti-e nolva @ 20mg sufficient to prevent gyno? I am running it throughout as do not want a single chance of it occurring! Also nolva is liver toxic so is it ok running it throughout?

    Other alternatives are Proviron or Arimidex but then ther is a cost issue

    3.) Weeks 8-10 (between last shot and pct) should u run nolva here?

    4.) PCT doses ok?

    5.) What is the best brand/make of test E? (i.e. most painless). Iranian Aburaihan any good...heard it is 1 of the best? Also it comes in amps but is it not better to have vials just for ease of use etc?



    Any other suggestions?

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    Run the cycle to at least 10wks. Take 10mg of nolva not 20. Test e every 3.5 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Run the cycle to at least 10wks. Take 10mg of nolva not 20. Test e every 3.5 days.
    agree with this...I use dbol and I love it..I recommend 40mg/day, but you might try 35mg/day. I would use arimidex if you are worried about retaining a lot of water. I usually frontload clomid a little more, 300 mg on day 1, 100mg for days 2-11, and 50 mg for 10 more days

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Run the cycle to at least 10wks.
    For sure, if not 12. Honestly, I'd leave the dbol out of the pic, you dont keep anything you gain with dbol, you get strong and puffy, but in the end you get nothing.

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    so 10mg nolva ed to prevent gyno. Also do u run nolva at 10mg for the 2 weeks after ur last jab of test E?

    Will 250mg every 5 days be enough or will i get much better gains from 250mg every mon and thurs? Will this also help prevent sides or not?

    The kickstart: will tbol at 50mg ed for 4 weeks be good cause i dont want no gains for 4 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastrg
    so 10mg nolva ed to prevent gyno. Also do u run nolva at 10mg for the 2 weeks after ur last jab of test E?

    Will 250mg every 5 days be enough or will i get much better gains from 250mg every mon and thurs? Will this also help prevent sides or not?

    The kickstart: will tbol at 50mg ed for 4 weeks be good cause i dont want no gains for 4 weeks?
    10mg during. 20mg after last jab. 250mg test e every 3.5 days. Is this your first cycle?

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    yeah it will be! so after last jab when i am taking nothing i up nolva to 20mg ed...and then continue with this dose for 2 weeks until pct?

    So weeks 1-10 nolva at 10mg ed
    weeks 10-12 @ 10mg OR 20mg????
    weeks 12-15 PCT

    Any other advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastrg
    yeah it will be! so after last jab when i am taking nothing i up nolva to 20mg ed...and then continue with this dose for 2 weeks until pct?

    So weeks 1-10 nolva at 10mg ed
    weeks 10-12 @ 10mg OR 20mg????
    weeks 12-15 PCT

    Any other advice?
    Yes to your first question, 10mg during-20mg after last jab. Above advice would be good. Leave the dbol out since this is your first cycle.

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    carry on with the nolva throughout your pct,would up the course a couple of weeks,10-12.

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    I posted this yesterday helping some-one with PCT:

    Correct PCT should consist of:

    wk 1-2 Clomid 100mg/ED
    wk 2-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Creatine 5g/ED
    wk 1-4 Tribulas 4g/ED
    wk 1-4 L-Glutamine 10mg/ED

    MultiVitimins and 1000mg/ED Vit C should also be included with Omega-3's and a Zinc and Magnesium supplement.

    Run Nolva 20mg/ED from last Test shot to start of PCT, also run 20mg/ED through out PCT, as above.

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    very good mate,along the lines of wat i do cept i bang it off with 300mg for the 1st day,but i run a bit more than 500mg weekly test,people should really do their research on pct its not that hard to press search!

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    thanks guys!! just on the kickstart issue...would 50mg Turnabol be good as i dont want to use dbol ?

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    Leave em both out. See how you are on the test. Im sure you will be happy w/the gains.

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