Need help putting together a cycle

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 09:27 AM

I am wanting a 8-10week cycle, I have on hand lots of Deca , Sust and 5mg D-bol tabs. What would be the best way to take them (schedule) , I don't want to take more than 20mg of D-bol per day as I have never used it before. Also, I have Nolvadex when and how much of this should I take. If someone could help me figure a schedule out I would forever thankful, thanks guys,

ElTornado.

**Dave321** · 05-17-2005, 09:29 AM

stats?

**FireBush** · 05-17-2005, 09:30 AM

Stats? Cycle experience? The more info you provide, the better the answers.

**Mesomorphyl** · 05-17-2005, 09:37 AM

Those guys are right about experience and stats... but if you decide on the classic bread and butter stack, then here are a couple of my truisms.

20mg of dbol will not give you any desired results... I would not use less than 30-35mg per day for a begginer anyway(I did 25mg my first time with dbol and was severely dissapointed). I also feel there is a minimum start for any of these compounds even if stacked, so test at 10 weeks ran 400mg per week, deca 300mg for 8 weeks and these are the bare minimums I would actually bump both by 100mg per week.

**lilripped** · 05-17-2005, 09:38 AM

not trying to flame bro, but do a little research, there is a thousand + posts on test/deca cycles

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 09:44 AM

It says in the profiles that good results will be had with 20mg a day of D-bol, anythis above that and you run a greater risk of side effects.

As for stats, 6' tall, 185 lbs. In good shape. Don't know fat % but I am trim but not ripped, with alittle around the waist. I did one cycle before, Deca and Sust, It was QV Deca 300mg once a week and Sust 250mg once a week, I liked the results but they disapeared fast after I was done.

Is there anything else that can help with the schedule ?

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 09:46 AM

Lilripped,

I know, but I can't find any that include D-bol and Nolvadex and most of the cycles are not beginer enough for me.

**TRICK** · 05-17-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by ElTornado

I am wanting a 8-10week cycle, I have on hand lots of Deca , Sust and 5mg D-bol tabs. What would be the best way to take them (schedule) , I don't want to take more than 20mg of D-bol per day as I have never used it before. Also, I have Nolvadex when and how much of this should I take. If someone could help me figure a schedule out I would forever thankful, thanks guys,

ElTornado.

you REALLY should do some research on this so YOU understand whats going into your body. there is a ton of info on ths site regarding stacks. having said that here is a sample:

wks 1-10 500 mg sust 250. 125 mg eod
wks 1-10 400 mg deca
wks 1-4 35 mg d bol per day
wks 1-12 20 mg nolva
wk 12 clomid therapy

anything less than 10 weeks and you won't be happy, trust me. do MORE research in the educational threads and you'll see why!

**lilripped** · 05-17-2005, 09:52 AM

How much gear do you have? Also pct should be started 3 weeks after the last shot of deca . Nolva should be run only if gyno symptoms appear unless you are prone to gyno.

**taiboxa** · 05-17-2005, 09:56 AM

i would never run deca less than 12 JMHO

**Mesomorphyl** · 05-17-2005, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would never run deca less than 12 JMHO

I feel like that with eq but I think you can get benifits with deca in as short as 8 weeks. JMHO

**taiboxa** · 05-17-2005, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

I feel like that with eq but I think you can get benifits with deca in as short as 8 weeks. JMHO

yeah well personally i would never run anything less than 15-20wks.. but thats just me... i have found that through proper use of HCG and a super PCT

and perfect diet i get more gains outta long cycle and retain approx the same % if not more than a short (anything less than 15wks) cycle

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 10:07 AM

I have access to unlimited amounts of gear. Trick, on that example is the nolva every day ? and if a vial is 250mg of sust. how do you do 125mg eod?

**Swifto** · 05-17-2005, 10:08 AM

Dbol 30mg/ED minimum IMO anything less will be a waste.

Seems like you need a little more research. Read "Hooker's Profile on Dianabol ", it may be benificial too you.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165456

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 10:11 AM

Novice dianabol doses are in the range of 20-25mg per day, as one would not need more to experience exceptional gains. Experienced users would do well to use a dose of around 50 mg per day or so.

Is 35mg per day to much do you think?

**Swifto** · 05-17-2005, 10:14 AM

Stick with 30mg/ED and see how you react to its side effects.

**ElTornado** · 05-17-2005, 10:21 AM

I think I'll just go with the novice cycle listed on the main page and replace the test w/ the sust. What about suppliments, anything new on the market that is getting good reviews ???

**lilripped** · 05-17-2005, 03:44 PM

Make sure you get some b6 to keep progestin levels in tact

**lilripped** · 05-17-2005, 03:48 PM

I also would recommend 30mgs a day of dbol for someone who has never done it before. I used 30mgs the first time and actually bumped it up to 40mgs after two weeks.

**big_d** · 05-17-2005, 03:58 PM

i am planning on taking steroids , i am 6 5 and i weigh in at about 195 pnds and i was wonderin how much of a difference 1 cycle would make, and my friend wuz wonder wut wud happen if you take steroids and u dont work out.

**lilripped** · 05-17-2005, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by big_d

i am planning on taking steroids, i am 6 5 and i weigh in at about 195 pnds and i was wonderin how much of a difference 1 cycle would make, and my friend wuz wonder wut wud happen if you take steroids and u dont work out.

Do some research and start your own thread.