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Ok guys, Just wanna know if anyone tried them and what kind of results did you get? And are they any good? I'm still deciding what kind of cycle to try out Bulk,Strenght or Srenght. It be my official cycle. Deciding on this.
Anavar 50mg - 8 weeks
Clomid afterwards
(I know i won't see much results)
or
T200 400mg - 8 weeks
EQ 4000mg - 8 weeks
Anavar 50mg - 6 weeks
Clomid Afterwards
Nolvadex on hand
BTW, stats are
31yrs.
165lbs.
4 years of on and off Training
are your goals to bulk or cut? or just have a bit more quality size?
Still trying to decide...just gathering info right now, to make up my mind.
Personally I would bulk. JMO
i got your PM........
here is the cut and paste of the original lab results of the spanish generic ox, the winny and deca are good prods as well!!!!
you did not mention physical shape, morphology (endo/ectomorph), and your height in dertermining your LBM...........
you should just bulk........eat clean but eat your 6meals/day + 2-4 50mg protien shakes/day!!!
be sure to use 10-15mg creatine post training with a simple sugar such as sucrose!!! and use 30+g creatine/day.
legit ox and creatine are very synergistic by themselves ( i did it at 70mg/day for ~7wks). throw in testo and eq and thats a cycle. l
et the long-acting esters of eq and enanthate clear and run your ox towards the end of your cycle for 6wks past your last i.m. inject. of enan/eq! youll solidify your gains.......start clomid three weeks post eq/enanthate i.m. inject.
keep using the creatine and use a good gainskeeper formula and you will do fine...........email me and ill mail you mine...to tired to type it......heh!!!
as said above, it really is goal-dependant, but if you are asking what i would do -- definetely the heavier cycle.
if you only do anavar, why use the clomid? oxandrolone won't shut down your natural testosterone levels at any dose.
jbrand, about shutting it down, people are now saying at the levels bb's take that it will effect your natural test levels.
wow, i have always been under the impression that it didn't -- kind of an outdated theory it appears. Medline had clashing info, but the most recent information supports the fact that it CAN suppress natural levels, thanks for correcting this. It seems even low levels have the ability, this is very surprising and rather discouraging. I will cite some appropriate studies:Quote:
Originally posted by Iron horse
jbrand, about shutting it down, people are now saying at the levels bb's take that it will effect your natural test levels.
1. Clin Endocrinol Oxf v38 p393 (1993) had a study with boys ages 12-15 who had constitutionally delayed growth or onset of puberty. 2.5 mg of
oxandrolone daily was found to suppress LH about 35%, testosterone about
60%, and SHBG by over 75%.
2. (Lovejoy, J of Obesity, 1995, 19:614-624) ....LH decreased by about 40%,article showed that only 10 mg of oxandrolone per
day reduced testostserone by about 62% in adult men. SHBG by about 49%.
opps..........i didnt go to AF and copy the lab tests........LOL: these are the spanish and the ox, stano are geat!!
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Unity66
Automoton posted 06-27-2001 01:57 AM
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here are the test results of the 10mg generic oxandrolone caps from DSPO and myself
>
>I basically used a Mass sprectometry analisis
>using the purest OX I could find.(From
>a pharmaceutical firm in Spain). You use this as a sort-of standard.
>
>Anyways, suffice it to say the comparisons
>are really, really convoluted and would take forever to explain. So,
> I'm adjoining the results of your 5 tabs w/ the comparisons
>already included for simplicities sake.
>
>Tab 1: (Unity66) Total Content: 205mg
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>Percentage OX: 4.45%
>Percentage moisture: 1.8%
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>Total OX content: 9.225mg
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>Tab 2: (Unity66) Total Content: 212mg
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>Percentage OX: 4.68%
>Percentage moisture: 2.1%
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>Total OX content: 9.9216mg
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>Tab 3 (DSPO) Total Content: 209mg
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>Percentage OX: 4.71%
>Percentage moisture:2.2%
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>Total OX content: 9.844mg
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>Tab 4(DSPO) Total Content: 216mg
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>Percentage OX: 4.42%
>Percentage moisture: 2.1%
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>Total OX content: 9.55mg
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>Tab 5(DSPO) Total Content: 211mg
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>Percentage OX: 4.32%
>Percentage moisture: 1.9%
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>Total OX content: 9.12mg
>
>Bacterial content was nil, but please advise your source that excess
>humidity is bad.
>Anything over 4-5%
>I didn't tests fillers etc... as it would take a long time.(There are
>two I believe but its
>for the humidity)(i.e. Better shelf-life)
>
>Since samples were within +-10%, this
>is legitimate Anavar.
>
>Be safe&Stay low
>
>Fonz
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therealj
Ripped Shit posted 06-27-2001 02:05 AM
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this makes me feel better seeing as how I have 300 of these coming...thanks for taking the time to have this done
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Jeff_rys
Born Too Soon posted 06-27-2001 04:02 AM
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good info Fonz
didn't know there where 10 mgr tabs in Spain
Jeff
Don't look back, life is too short
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Got wood?
The macho of a new millennium posted 06-27-2001 09:24 AM
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Unity66, I tried to send you an e mail but whenever I tried to send it, it responded that [email protected] is an invalid address.
I am glad you posted these results, but I am a little lost at this point. On the last thread several different types of generic anavar were discussed : **'s, Spanish, etc.
WHOSE generic's were tested? Is this **'s. One guy I know has a generic from Spain. I am just wondering whose generic this was that was tested.
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Jeff_rys
Born Too Soon posted 06-27-2001 10:50 AM
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sorry Fonz, i meant caps
also, you probably know i had problems with the red/white caps( 5 mgr).
Jeff
Don't look back, life is too short
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Unity66
Automoton posted 06-27-2001 12:06 PM
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gotwood........dont know why your having trouble with that account. try me at auto91788@hushmail...
there not **'s caps nor are they from brazil, china or thailand.........if you have his list there from a friend who has them listed for $100/100caps. dont really know how to say more without source posting.......lol
Unity66
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Hacker
Porn Star posted 06-27-2001 02:34 PM
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Damn, they're underdosed. heh heh
Thanks Fonz, Unity, and DSPO! Thats wonderful news. I'm about 2 weeks into them at 40mg/day and really starting to like them.
Thanks again.
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BigEasy
Not of this world posted 06-27-2001 05:09 PM
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Waaah,
I was hoping for a source post!!! 100/100 is good stuff! Especially with a CofA(Unity66's) backing it!!
BE
In the background, the chants began from afar....building with each successive shout:
We want a source post! We want a source post! We want a source post! We want a source post! We want a source post! We want a source post!
BE
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Got wood?
The macho of a new millennium posted 06-27-2001 09:09 PM
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Thanks Unity. Now I am jonesin' for some ox.
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DSPO
Sniper posted 06-27-2001 09:37 PM
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Again special thanks to Fonz!!!!
Unity,
Thanks for taking the time to post this for me. I have been unable to type since I had my shoulder scoped.
DSPO
“Knowledge allows you greater possibilities”...Dan Duchaine
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Unity66
Automoton posted 06-27-2001 09:55 PM
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ok.........im not the source so stop with the emails already! if i dont know you im not pointing you anywhere......
Unity66
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Cocktails
I'll Take the Big One! posted 06-29-2001 12:51 AM
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Unity......Need you bro'.
Can you test that Sust for me?
Didn't know you where a chemist...
Let me know.
C
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Unity66
Automoton posted 06-29-2001 11:10 AM
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C-tails ya got me...........
C-tails.........read your post so you know that fonz tested these for DSPO and myself. ill drop ya an email though as im curious as to where you grabbed those strange looking amps.......
Unity66
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Shredded
Manimal posted 06-29-2001 05:04 PM
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thnx for the info big unit.
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Cornellius
The Chilean Myth posted 07-02-2001 12:40 PM
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Good info...
Thanks
Welcome to heaven...
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peace..............Unity66
great info up there.
>I basically used a Mass sprectometry analisis
>using the purest OX I could find.(From
>a pharmaceutical firm in Spain). You use this as a sort-of >standard.
is it safe to assume these 10mg anavar were a "chewable" brand so-to-speak. I have done 5mg generics in capsules out of spain a few years back -- i wasn't sure if that was the country belonging to the ox or just of the laboratory.
jbrand.......drop me an encyrpted email at [email protected] and ill gladly reffer you........he is international and a great guy!!!
there from spain......tan caps with an orangish powder, ive used the generic ox with excellent results and the generic stano was comparable to zambons.....:)
Unity66
Unity66, thx for the good info...i just sent you an email.
I leaning towards my Strenght cycle first. Then doing my bulk cycle afterwards. I'll be sure to add creatine to my anavar only cycle.
How many pounds did you put on from your Var only cycle, Unity66? How much did you keep?
I'm curious about ya other guys that have done Var only cycle. How much did ya gain?
Thx for yas help Bro's
Showbiz
ox only @60-7-mg/day.........~8wks with creatine post cycle and nutrition training set!!----gains made, lost BF, increases LBM and strength in all lifts........overall, gained ~7lbs of LBM, which was easy to keep. use creatine year-round.......both on and of!!
ox is truly an amazing substance.........the strength gains are comparable to more androgenic steroids w/out the aromatization, weight gain.........
good luck with your cycle...........
Unity66
DO NOT ORDER ANY GENERIC ANAVAR FROM THE GUY WHO SHIPS OUT OF SPAIN AND SWEDEN....
He is having tons of problems, owes many people money and goods and there is alot of talk of him turning scammer...
Thx for looking out for me, Ironfist. :)
ShowBiz
tell me this is not so...........BB owed me 5vials of stano as the guy in spain had so many customs probs he cant ship to the states, so i recieved 5 out of ten......then the swed shipped me two vials and 100 proviron.
i had ordered 500 proviron.........so, according to him i have 5vials of stano on there way to me as i just said throw in 2vials of stano and well call it even on the proviron.
ill let you know............til then, i would tell you not to send funds yet ive known him to always deliver.....no probs!! i should recieve in the next ~14days max (hopefully!)
ironfist, if you know something i dont......shoot me an email at [email protected] or pm me.......
Unity66
i recieved my stano in under ~14days......
id say all is well.........
Unity66
Order on the way. (Generic Anavar 10mg) I'll keep ya guys posted of results.
Unity66, do I need to chew these pills? or shallow them hole?
I heard from a buddy, that he crushes his winnies and puts it under his tongue. What do ya think about this method?
Showbiz
they are gel caps just swallow them
oh and unity you got email bro, I was hearing the same things as IF.
Thx kizer_soce, can't wait to get them babies in.
BTW I'm gonna go ahead and run it with T200 and EQ!
ShowBiz
I am curious is that test from the guy who sends from Spain/Sweden or from a different bro who I have heard gets the same generic spanish ox powder. Because the guy who ships from Spain/Sweden is having tons of problems last I heard unless it has cleared up in the past week, there's about a 1000 post thread over on elite about it. The other bro I was talking had 5mg 100/$100 but I've heard recently they are now testing at 10mg this the reports you are posting or from the possible scammer? Sorry to make this post so confusing but trying to protect everyone.
did someone say BUMP
Back to my original question. Has any tried Generic Anavar 10 mg? What kind of result did you get just running Var alone? Input is greatly appreciated.
ShowBiz
Showbiz, I just ran the 10mg of var, 50mg ed for only 4 weeks cause of time constraints. I gained 9lbs. I've been off of it for 3 weeks now and I'm still holding my weight gains. My abs look good so it was all muscle. I'll prob do another cycle in June for 8 weeks. I'm only looking to put on 5-8 more lbs of lean muscle. Its safe, easy and it works. It just cost $$$$
Core, thats the answer i been looking for. Did you use Creatine with Var?
Well i'm still thinking of using T200 and EQ with my Var. I want to put on 15-20 lbs. of lean muscle. I have a wedding to stand up in about a month, so i'll be standing in front of alot pretty women. So I want to make a better impression. Not that I need to :)
Good luck on your next cycle and start saving cuse it does cost $$$. Glad i'm working alot of Overtime
;)
ShowBiz
Showbix, I was running creatine before the var (10g ed) and continued during the cycle. I'm one of the odd balls where the creatine doesnt do much for me, I really dont retain much water at all with it. I tried several different brands, taking with grape juice, etc, just about everything you can thing of. I think the var helped the creatine a bit but I really didnt retain that much water at all, maybe a 1lb or 2.