var alone???

**faustunta** · 05-19-2005, 09:16 PM

Just curious......... from everything i have read about anavar , this stuff seems to be pretty good as far as cutting, minimal gains but very little sides at all.and gives u a harder appearence and the gains are kept when done... Has anyone run var by itself???? i dont know the chemical makeup, but ive heard it doesnt shut ur nat test down hardly at all is this true???
what about var and a lil dbol ???

**spywizard** · 05-19-2005, 09:20 PM

yes to all the above.. you forgot that it takes for me anyway.. my cholesterol to 350+ so if you don't have any history of heart desease.. you might be ok..

**mark956101957** · 05-19-2005, 09:22 PM

Var will most certainly shut down your own test. I have done a cycle by itself back in my early 30. Strength went through the roof and I was cut. IF there was one oral I would do alone it would be var. Personally Dbol sucked, water, water and oh did I mention you retain water as well? Stick with var alone 40-60mg daily. Good luck......

**TheMindOfRoss** · 05-19-2005, 09:27 PM

Oxandrolone will NOT SHUT YOU DOWN. It will however reduce serum concentration t-levels in a dose-dependent manner.

I am Anavar only cycle right now. Started at 30mgs/ED and I am up to 40mgs ED. I masterbate at least twice a day (not including sex), no sides at all. gains are not huge, up about 6lbs and I am on week 4, going on 5 in 3 days. I am however HARRRD as a ROCK, vascular, and ripped. You can check out my pics on a few other threads(lol)...its good stuff.

**faustunta** · 05-19-2005, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by mark956101957

Var will most certainly shut down your own test. I have done a cycle by itself back in my early 30. Strength went through the roof and I was cut. IF there was one oral I would do alone it would be var. Personally Dbol sucked, water, water and oh did I mention you retain water as well? Stick with var alone 40-60mg daily. Good luck......

Hey thanks guys for your input.....i have test e deca and TONS of dbol ...i was gettign ready for my first cycel....... when i started reading all of this stuff about how goo dvar is and im thinkin Hm i think i might wanna try this ...sounds like it may be a little better for my needs... and with prop pct i have clomid and nolv also shouldnt be a prob with nat test

I started posting prob 2 monthes ago here...NEWBIES PLEASE read the diet forum...i thought i was doing good before i cam ehere......then started gettign all this gear cus i swore i needed it to gain size..... IVE gained 10 pds!!!!!!!! in the past 1 1/2 monthes from just my diet!!! from 192 @ 10%bf to 202pds @ 9% tonight! wow ..... which is why i was thinkin that VAR might really be what im looking for an extra 5-7 pounds and 2-3% less BF...and it seems liek you guys have had very good experiences with it.....if you dont mind how long did you take it for 6-8 weeks???

**mark956101957** · 05-19-2005, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheMindOfRoss

Oxandrolone will NOT SHUT YOU DOWN. It will however reduce serum concentration t-levels in a dose-dependent manner.

I am Anavar only cycle right now. Started at 30mgs/ED and I am up to 40mgs ED. I masterbate at least twice a day (not including sex), no sides at all. gains are not huge, up about 6lbs and I am on week 4, going on 5 in 3 days. I am however HARRRD as a ROCK, vascular, and ripped. You can check out my pics on a few other threads(lol)...its good stuff.

Anavar will not shut down your own natural testosterone production??????? Ask around!

**TheMindOfRoss** · 05-19-2005, 09:36 PM

NO WAY MAN....Oxandrolone doe snot BIND TO THE A-R, does not AROMATIZE, and has little effect on HPTA. YES, serum T-concentrations decreased, but NOT SHUTDOWN as is the case with TEST--not even close actually...

You have never taken var obviously..

**mark956101957** · 05-19-2005, 09:41 PM

No my brother, I have taken it on several occasions and you could be right. My understanding was if you took enough it would shut down your own natural test production....but hey I could be wrong- wouldn't be the first time. It is one of my favorite orals thats for sure. Fun stuff.....

**faustunta** · 05-19-2005, 09:42 PM

WHOW!!!!!! i was just asking if anyone had seen good results from it and could give me someinput which i thank you guys....but lets not start another agument thread please lol......at any rate everyone that posted so far can agree on this i can see.... VAR is def a very benificial oral and CAn be taken by itself and have had very good reults....so lets all get along

.....oh mark u said somethign about tribulus while on var?? is this a vitamen?? root extract ?

**mark956101957** · 05-19-2005, 09:44 PM

We are fine bro, Var is the shit thats for sure. Strength increase is just short of amazing. good luck. Didn't mention trib while on var. Don't known a whole lot on trib.

**faustunta** · 05-19-2005, 10:14 PM

ok so now suggestions or...let me kno what your cycle of var looked like??? how many mgs ED and fo rhow long???? and pct??suggest nolv during ?? or liquidex?

**chris2wire** · 05-19-2005, 11:07 PM

Ive taken var....

But i think oral turinabol is just as good and much cheaper. I have taken that, and I was very satisfied... just thought id throw that in if youre tight on money.

**Teegunn** · 05-19-2005, 11:43 PM

I was gonna ask about the oral turinabol . I have heard of bros taking both Var and Tbol at the same time with good results. However, two orals together can be a no-no. I need to read up more on T-Bol and see how liver toxic it is. I know Var isn't very hard on the liver.