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**Nicky B** · 05-21-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by dazbo

I cant actually believe you guys think Im big ?!!! That pic was took just before I started my first cycle early this year. I started that cycle at 190lbs, and finished at 190lbs!! so I got nothing from it even though it was a bulking cycle!! I am now in wk 2 of prop/var cycle and hopefully this one works.

Im not that big - 5'10" currently just under 14st!!

What went wrong with cycle even if you have poor training and diet you still can something. What happened?? Kool I started a second page.

**taiboxa** · 05-21-2005, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by dazbo

I cant actually believe you guys think Im big ?!!! That pic was took just before I started my first cycle early this year. I started that cycle at 190lbs, and finished at 190lbs!! so I got nothing from it even though it was a bulking cycle!! I am now in wk 2 of prop/var cycle and hopefully this one works.

Im not that big - 5'10" currently just under 14st!!

LoL its the angle... it does strange thing to your pic...
my avatar pic was taken from above @ 45deg angle...
does it really look like i weight 242lbs 9%bf? NOPE but thats what i was and am when that pic was taken

**dazbo** · 05-21-2005, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

What went wrong with cycle even if you have poor training and diet you still can something. What happened?? Kool I started a second page.

firstly, I beleive (And theres also a post that states this that backed up what I think) that, before my cycle I had already reached my genetic limit. And then when I used the juice, because of this, I didnt gain much. Also, the doses I used. 250mg test is not much really is it ?!? and the deca , although I know now it should have been at least 100mg below the test level it wasnt. 200mg deca is also V low. I did gain some while on the cycle, I made it to 200lbs, but like I said, even after proper clomid/nolva pct, it didnt get me back to normal and certainly not quickly so my test levels were v low. I think this caused me to lose whatever muscle I might have gained.
I beleive my diet was pretty good for a bulking one, I was over 5000cals per day, with over 400g prot, plenty of carbs and low fat, about 40:40:20. I tried to keep it pretty clean too. I did post my diet from then a few months ago.

I think the above accounts for the lack of gains yeah ????

**dazbo** · 05-21-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

LoL its the angle... it does strange thing to your pic...
my avatar pic was taken from above @ 45deg angle...
does it really look like i weight 242lbs 9%bf? NOPE but thats what i was and am when that pic was taken

yeah I think lot of it is the angle of the pic too!!

Even I think it makes me look bigger!

I do have another pic, with more to come on the following post -
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...29#post1832329

And, you're right, I cant beleive you were that weight and BF in that pic??!!!

**taiboxa** · 05-21-2005, 12:03 PM

need high amounts of EFA for bulking

**dazbo** · 05-21-2005, 12:17 PM

I supplemented with flax and epa/dha fish oils as well as included extra olive oils in my meals plus I ate mixed nuts. Also supp'd with evening primrose oils. at one point I used weight gain formulae that had them in as well.