tbol vs anavar

**Teegunn** · 05-24-2005, 10:48 AM

I thought T-Bol was NOT hard on the hairline??? True? Tbol and Var are not supposed to make you shed, are they?

**Duke of Earl** · 05-24-2005, 12:45 PM

I thought T-Bol was NOT hard on the hairline??? True? Tbol and Var are not supposed to make you shed, are they?

never had any major probs with either

**randy6969** · 05-24-2005, 02:55 PM

im about to start on tbol and ive dont reseach and everywhere its been said it doesnt convert to dht... so im assuming it doesnt.... if it does its very minimal so its better then all the other steriods out there. so ur safer then every other steriod out there with var/tbol IMO.

**Recklace** · 05-24-2005, 03:07 PM

What is an effective dosasge of T-bol?

**Nicky B** · 05-24-2005, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Recklace

What is an effective dosasge of T-bol?

30mg to 100mg is most the most I ever heard anyone running it.

**Recklace** · 05-24-2005, 03:20 PM

How many weeks should someone run T-bol if there running like 40mg ED? and would there be any PCT necessary besides some Clomid?

**Nicky B** · 05-24-2005, 04:23 PM

6weeks would be fine with that dose or 8weeks

**randy6969** · 05-25-2005, 09:52 AM

im gonna be running

week 1-2 60 MG schock the system

Week 3-6 50 MG

Week 7 40MG

week 8 30 MG

its either that or run 50 first 4 and 40 next 4 still deciding

**kfont12** · 05-25-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by randy6969

im gonna be running

week 1-2 60 MG schock the system

Week 3-6 50 MG

Week 7 40MG

week 8 30 MG

its either that or run 50 first 4 and 40 next 4 still deciding

i would stay at the same dosage for 8 weeks

**anabolicbruce** · 05-25-2005, 09:58 AM

Let me know how it works for you, I will be starting my OT in a few weeks. As for pct, people compare OT to dianabol and anavar -so does it shut you down like d-bol or anavar? There is a big difference! There hasnt been much info on the degree of HPTA impact.

Originally Posted by randy6969

im gonna be running

week 1-2 60 MG schock the system

Week 3-6 50 MG

Week 7 40MG

week 8 30 MG

its either that or run 50 first 4 and 40 next 4 still deciding

**randy6969** · 05-25-2005, 10:01 AM

i got some 6 0xo laying around atleast some of it im just gona take that since u dont really need that with tribulus

**Nicky B** · 05-25-2005, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicbruce

Let me know how it works for you, I will be starting my OT in a few weeks. As for pct, people compare OT to dianabol and anavar-so does it shut you down like d-bol or anavar? There is a big difference! There hasnt been much info on the degree of HPTA impact.

I don't have an exact answer but it will not shut you down as hard as dbol or test but it probably shuts you down harder then var does.

**xxSmartyPantsxx** · 05-25-2005, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

I don't have an exact answer but it will not shut you down as hard as dbol or test but it probably shuts you down harder then var does.

i found the following info on the internet today:

Dosages over 20mg/day lead to HPTA supression

**this stuff was translated from German, so the grammar isn't perfect**

htpa supress will occur with only 20mg/day, but, big advantage for OT, 5 days after stop, htpa will be back to normal range, even higher than normal range.

The income of 20 mg OT/Tag leads already after 10 days to a suppression of the endogenous Testosteronproduktion, which normalized themselves however already 5 days after termination of the income again and in the future even still continue to rise.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 05-25-2005, 03:43 PM

Where is that from? Reference? Link?

**xxSmartyPantsxx** · 05-25-2005, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

Where is that from? Reference? Link?

http://www. e l i t e f i t n e s s .com/forum/showthread.php?t=98766

http://www. e l i t e f i t n e s s .com/forum/showthread.php?t=98767

also, do a google search for: eastgermany.pdf

there's a really good report

**Nicky B** · 05-25-2005, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by xxSmartyPantsxx

i found the following info on the internet today:

Dosages over 20mg/day lead to HPTA supression

**this stuff was translated from German, so the grammar isn't perfect**

htpa supress will occur with only 20mg/day, but, big advantage for OT, 5 days after stop, htpa will be back to normal range, even higher than normal range.

The income of 20 mg OT/Tag leads already after 10 days to a suppression of the endogenous Testosteronproduktion, which normalized themselves however already 5 days after termination of the income again and in the future even still continue to rise.

very interesting but 95% of people will run it at a higher dose then 20mg.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 05-25-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by xxSmartyPantsxx

http://www. e l i t e f i t n e s s .com/forum/showthread.php?t=98766

http://www. e l i t e f i t n e s s .com/forum/showthread.php?t=98767

also, do a google search for: eastgermany.pdf

there's a really good report

Yeah...the Elite fitness links aren't exactly scientific references, and the links in them aren't working either...

...the east germany pdf doesn't have info on inhibition of HPTA, but it's by Franke and Berkendorf if it's the one I'm thinking of. What I wanted was a valid medical study showing that guys were given different doses of OT and only 20mgs+ caused inhibition....

I've heard the 20mgs figure, but have never found the study....

**xxSmartyPantsxx** · 05-25-2005, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

Yeah...the Elite fitness links aren't exactly scientific references, and the links in them aren't working either...

...the east germany pdf doesn't have info on inhibition of HPTA, but it's by Franke and Berkendorf if it's the one I'm thinking of. What I wanted was a valid medical study showing that guys were given different doses of OT and only 20mgs+ caused inhibition....

I've heard the 20mgs figure, but have never found the study....

understood, regarding the fact that elite fitness links aren't scientific references...however, those people were reading some sort of German report (which is now a defunct link) that spoke about 20mg/day and HPTA suppression. as well as a five day recuperative period. i'd like to find that report as well, but i thought this information was worth mentioning here.

cheers

**Property of Steroid.com** · 05-25-2005, 05:11 PM

No...it is...I just wish I had some solid references....It took me 6 hours of research and writing to to the Oral Turinabol profile for this site, and I wish I had something solid regarding inhibition of HPTA in it...

THere's just nothing like that in any studies I read...

**randy6969** · 05-25-2005, 08:54 PM

well im not sure but i think HPTA means shut the down of natural testostorone production.. if im right isnt this with any steriod ? and it goes back up to normal within 5 days and u can always start taking tribulus after ur done correct?

**Duke of Earl** · 05-26-2005, 04:59 AM

well im not sure but i think HPTA means shut the down of natural testostorone production.. if im right isnt this with any steriod? and it goes back up to normal within 5 days and u can always start taking tribulus after ur done correct?

dude - we all know what the HPTA is! And yes HPTA supression does occur to a varying degree with any steroid - the time for recovery is dependant on which AAS youre using (ester length, degree of shutdown etc) - 5 days is very quick for HPTA recovery.... trib may help, but proper clomid / nolva based PCT is whats really required for a fast efficient recovery.

**Juicedoesabodygood** · 06-16-2005, 01:27 AM

take them both, natural is un-natural

**randy6969** · 06-28-2005, 09:48 AM

i am on TBol right now and its been 3 days and its amazing, so far i feel stronger, feel better over all, harder, a little thicker i gained 4 lbs already and my six pack is beggining to show and its harder, and my shoulders look bigger ive been getting complements already and its just been 3 days and a rock hard dick .. this is an amazing aas im going to get more. im taking 20 mg in the morning 20 more after 8 hours and 10 mg before i sleep =50 mg for 8 weeks. hope i get the 10-15 lbs im looking for.

**inevitable** · 06-28-2005, 10:36 AM

bro i say, just read up alot and wat seems to be more appealing to u go with that... everyones different.

**MMAfanboy** · 01-31-2008, 03:47 PM

Just started a var cycle and I have felt shitty on it.. depressed.. low sex drive... shitting all the time.. thinking about switching and trying the T bol.. any suggestions?

**Kennedy** · 01-31-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by MMAfanboy

Just started a var cycle and I have felt shitty on it.. depressed.. low sex drive... shitting all the time.. thinking about switching and trying the T bol.. any suggestions?

Yea don't bump old as sh*t threads and start your own if you want help.

or even better use the search button

**taiboxa** · 01-31-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kennedy

Yea don't bump old as sh*t threads and start your own if you want help.

or even better use the search button

i think he actually did use the search button.. thats how this ancient thing got raised ><

we need to host an educational video on how to search

**PEWN** · 01-31-2008, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i think he actually did use the search button.. thats how this ancient thing got raised ><

we need to host an educational video on how to search

thats the first thing they need to use that million dollar tv lab for ....

pass it along ....

**KINGKONG** · 01-31-2008, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by MMAfanboy

Just started a var cycle and I have felt shitty on it.. depressed.. low sex drive... shitting all the time.. thinking about switching and trying the T bol.. any suggestions?

Fill a syringe 2ml full of TEST 250 and inject it into your ass..Take it like that and love it...Oral only cycles are forbidden 4 my body..Oh yeah and I prefer anavar to t-bol

**DesiBoy** · 02-01-2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by KINGKONG

Fill a syringe 2ml full of TEST 250 and inject it into your ass..Take it like that and love it...Oral only cycles are forbidden 4 my body..Oh yeah and I prefer anavar to t-bol

Do u really think that not having test into the cycle cause the depression and the other sides if so it shoud be very easy and noone should considewr do any oral only cycles. Thanks don't mean to steel the thread.

**KINGKONG** · 02-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by DesiBoy

Do u really think that not having test into the cycle cause the depression and the other sides if so it shoud be very easy and noone should considewr do any oral only cycles. Thanks don't mean to steel the thread.

Yes, I 100% beleive I feel better with test in my cycle..Actually as the primary in my cycle..I need something natural that will keep my blood levels steady and outta all my friends that try to take everything but test I see the emotional up's and downs..Ive tried all oral cycles, but I always come back to my slavemaster Sweet Test...........

**sprawlbrawl** · 02-01-2008, 12:59 PM

i have some anavar on the way how do i tell if it real,and will it make me bigger and how quick,thats all i have is that bad

**texasmk4** · 02-01-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by sprawlbrawl

i have some anavar on the way how do i tell if it real,and will it make me bigger and how quick,thats all i have is that bad

once you get it, take a picture and post it on pics forum to find out if its legit or fake.

**AMZ** · 04-25-2009, 12:37 PM

HI i've been training about 1 year, and am keep to try some gear. i have hered of anavar , bout am not sure wat to take. i weigh 13 st 4lbs, and want 2 get to about 15st.

however im am hesitant to take roids because of the effect on the penis. many people say it sjrinks, and some say it getrs bigger? is this true?

and also what steroid would "bulk" up fairly kwikly without the above side effect?
thanks