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  1. 05-21-2005, 04:17 AM #1
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    Just have to know this..

    I have heard so many opinions on this question, that i just have to know the truth.


    When you run nolva throughout the whole cycle, will that make less gains than if you didnt use nolva, just when the cycle ended ?
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  2. 05-21-2005, 04:28 AM #2
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    not really you would not get as big due to the water weight but you will lose all that when you come off anyway. So imo run the nolva i don't wan't to look like a big bag of water
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  3. 05-21-2005, 06:22 AM #3
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    it can is what ive always heard, but i still believe its better to be safe than sorry and run it during cycle and possibly sacrifice a bit, which is gonna be water most likely as stocky said
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  4. 05-21-2005, 08:10 AM #4
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    yes

    if you run nolv or l-dex at to high of a dose it will hinder gains. your dobd needs estrogen to bild muscle.
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  5. 05-21-2005, 08:12 AM #5
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    just go down on your girl whiles shes raggin it will m ake for an interesting estrogen intake method
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegr8One
    just go down on your girl whiles shes raggin it will m ake for an interesting estrogen intake method
    i hate you for that comment... mental pic not .. leaving.. must.. commence self lobotomy d.s,afj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegr8One
    just go down on your girl whiles shes raggin it will m ake for an interesting estrogen intake method


    o man that is nasty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegr8One
    just go down on your girl whiles shes raggin it will m ake for an interesting estrogen intake method
    LoL thats rancid man
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    thank god for that comment though im working at the ComunCentr and they are having Womens Day EXTRAVAGANZE !! omg nothing but women an over HALF of them are 16-19yr old HOTTIES!! i have been on edge whole time after just recently dumpin the chick i was dating for a while... PROP make me Very LIbIdO HIGH ><
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  10. 05-21-2005, 10:26 AM #10
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    Ok, so if nolva will hinder some of your gains, then i may consider taking it after the cycle instead. How much should i use ? And when ?
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  11. 05-21-2005, 10:31 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testo^
    Ok, so if nolva will hinder some of your gains, then i may consider taking it after the cycle instead. How much should i use ? And when ?

    as soon as you start pct run 20mg ED with clomid
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  12. 05-21-2005, 10:33 AM #12
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    Ok.. Here is my cycle..
    wk 1-5 dbol 30mg ed
    wk 1-12 test e 500 a week ( shoots mondays and tuesday )
    wk 14-17 clomid
    wk 14 -17 nolva 20mg ed ?
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  13. 05-21-2005, 10:35 AM #13
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    that look's spot on to me
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  14. 05-21-2005, 12:22 PM #14
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    Nice, someone else who has an opinion ?
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  15. 05-21-2005, 12:34 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testo^
    Ok.. Here is my cycle..
    wk 1-5 dbol 30mg ed
    wk 1-12 test e 500 a week ( shoots mondays and tuesday )
    wk 14-17 clomid
    wk 14 -17 nolva 20mg ed ?
    like it just make sure you have the nolva on hand throughout your course just in case you need it!
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  16. 05-22-2005, 01:11 PM #16
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    Ok, thank you i guess i will notice by my self when i need it right ? What should i look for ?
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  17. 05-22-2005, 01:17 PM #17
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    u should run nolvadex 1 or 2 weeks after clomid week 14-19 cause when are off even thought clomid will restore the natural test production, u will still experience higher estrogen levels in the catabolic phase that follows the cycle
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  18. 05-22-2005, 03:50 PM #18
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    Hmmm, ok, i have tought about it a little..
    And i guess i can run nolvadex troughout the whole cycle with 10mg a day.
    Someone who have done this and still gained alot ?
    What can i expect to gain from a cycle like that ? With high intake of protein and carbs?
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  19. 05-23-2005, 06:21 AM #19
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  20. 05-23-2005, 07:11 AM #20
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    everybodies body is different testo. no way to tell.
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  21. 05-23-2005, 07:44 AM #21
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    Suposedly nolva lowers ones natural igf levels, so theoreticaly limiting gains. However it's good for your lipid profile and estrogen sides. I use l-dex and the minimum of nolva as needed like 10-20mg/day.
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  22. 05-23-2005, 08:31 AM #22
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    Testo just do 10mg of nolva a day and you will be fine and happy for not having tits. It will not hinder your gains enough to have a pair like your gf.
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  23. 05-23-2005, 08:57 AM #23
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    You won't notice THAT much difference in gains, IMO. Most of the gains that you won't get will, as others have pointed out, be water.

    I think if you have ANY good reason to use nolva right from the start, then use it, and don't worry about only gaining 12 lbs instead of 14 lbs. If you DON'T think you have a reason to use it from the start, then don't. Save it for when/if you notice gyno symptoms.
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  24. 05-23-2005, 08:58 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegr8One
    just go down on your girl whiles shes raggin it will m ake for an interesting estrogen intake method
    That doesn't work. If it did, I would have D cups by now.
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  25. 05-23-2005, 09:04 AM #25
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