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    2nd cycle advice!! + pic

    Sup every1! Ok here it goes, I'm gonna start my 2nd cycle soon, I've researched and would like to know what u guys suggest

    Cycle history= QV EQ 400mg wk (12wks)
    (put on 10lbs w/it, my diet is on lock)

    Stats= 5'9" 183-185lbs (in pic) currently about 189-190 (holiday weight)

    Gear= 4 bottles qv eq
    3 bottles qv winny (oral)
    4 bottles qv prop

    Goals= get back to look in pic, no bloat, put on a few more lbs, hopefully not to many sides (with the eq i didnt have any sides at all) get laid more!!

    Cycle sugg. welcome , 1st time using any test, also what r the best anti-e's and what dosages do u guys suggest, Pct. i have plenty of clomid
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    Hmm well it looks like you're looking for a lean mass gainer. There are two main schools of thought

    1) Become a fatass and gain all the muscle you can then face slam DNP Clen or T3 while dieting like a fanatic

    2) Continually gain lean mass while keeping BF low

    The pro's and cons to both are apparent, personally im a fan of the 2nd, as you seem to be also.

    EQ can be frustrated for lean bulkers because it makes you a pig after about week 5. If this is your first test cycle why dont you give it a try on its own, or perhaps with some Anavar .

    Wk 1-12 500mg/week Test E (or Test Propionate , some people like that better)

    Test only cycles your first time on test are preferrable, use 20mg's a day of nolvadex also.
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    fuk dnp .. i like my healthy life..
    run something like
    wks 1-12 EQ 400-600mg Wkly
    wks 1-15 Prop 75-100mg ED
    wks 10-15 Win 50-75mg ED
    wk 16-20pct
    STILL all your success will be DEPENDENT UPON YOUR DIET!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    fuk dnp .. i like my healthy life..
    run something like
    wks 1-12 EQ 400-600mg Wkly
    wks 1-15 Prop 75-100mg ED
    wks 10-15 Win 50-75mg ED
    wk 16-20pct
    STILL all your success will be DEPENDENT UPON YOUR DIET!
    I agree.

    Get some nice lean gains from that cycle with a good clean diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    fuk dnp .. i like my healthy life..
    run something like
    wks 1-12 EQ 400-600mg Wkly
    wks 1-15 Prop 75-100mg ED
    wks 10-15 Win 50-75mg ED
    wk 16-20pct
    STILL all your success will be DEPENDENT UPON YOUR DIET!
    Looks good to me, except I'd run the Winny right up to PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL
    Looks good to me, except I'd run the Winny right up to PCT.
    thats what i thought i had?..
    you run prop for say to 5th day of wk 15 and win up to the 7th day of the week and on day 1 of wk 16 pct begins bleh...

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    First off thanx to every1 who replied, 2nd can i get away with injecting prop EOD instead of ED, also can i mix the PROP and EQ in 1 injection, I've heard that prop hurts and i know eq does not,, will mixing lessen the pain of prop? And def. 20mg of NOLVA a day??
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    ED would be better for sides, it would mean more stable blood levels.

    Secondly, you can mix the Prop/EQ yes, it may also help with the pain.

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    well lets c if this sh*% works then, THANX ALL

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    imo.. 20mg nolvadex throughout the cycle, and throughout pct will help keep a lean look.

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    Definately run the Eq and Prop together in the same shot if thats what you decided on

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    Alrigh i have a dumbass question. What is the difference in lean mass building and just a mass builder

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