first Timer on sust and d-bol!! need help

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 12:50 PM

Im about to start a cycle with sustanon 250(organon) and d-bol(pink thais 5mg tabs)
question is for a first timer is it a good idea to be cycling both at the same time or is better for more advanced users. I will be taking 2 shots a week and 10 tabs a day, is that to much?? anyone with some feedback that would be great
Thanks

**Gizmo** · 06-19-2005, 12:57 PM

50 mg of d-bol is too much for a first time IMO

How many weeks are you running the d-bol?
And how long are you running the sust?
Are you taking 1 cc 2X a week?

Giz

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:04 PM

I have 300 tabs of d-bol so 5-6 weeks,
the sustanon is 1cc twice a week for 5 weeks(10 amps)

how much d-bol should take then on daily basis???

**Gizmo** · 06-19-2005, 01:17 PM

I'd go 20 mg of d-bol a day 4 weeks, maybe 5.
And you need to run the Sust for a MINIMAL of 8 weeks, 10 would be better, so you better get some more amps..

Giz

**Bertz** · 06-19-2005, 01:23 PM

and sust should be injected EOD

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:26 PM

thanks giz
i already have more amps i was told from the guy i got them from to run it for 5 weeks and to sell the others.
he also said that 50mgs of d-bol would be fine and that it would make me grow like weeds, if i took the d-bol by itself would 50mg be fine then or is it still not recommended.
thanks for your opinion i may see what others think about 50mgs of d-bol and sust for the cycle

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:28 PM

thanks bertz,, i got a nursing student to help me with that!!

**Gizmo** · 06-19-2005, 01:29 PM

Oh..berth is right...forgot about the prop ester..

And don't run d-bol alone, that's just not smart..patience bro..get some more amps...

Giz

**stocky121** · 06-19-2005, 01:29 PM

you should be injecting sust EOD at least not twice a week

also 50mg of d/boll first off is a bit strong go for 30mg 6 tab's a day for this cycle

**Booz** · 06-19-2005, 01:33 PM

5 weeks is nowhere near enuf time for a test cycle mate it will just be gettin into your system and you will be stoppin!!!
10 weeks minimum 5 weeks is a terrible idea,dont listen to the friend who told you this he obviously does not know nothin.

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:40 PM

thanks fellas,,,i bought 25 amps of sust and was gonna sell it to some friends but i guess i'll hold on to it for now.
so inject sust EOD for 10 weeks is what your saying and 30mgs of d-bol for 10 weeks as well

**stocky121** · 06-19-2005, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by gearedup711

thanks fellas,,,i bought 25 amps of sust and was gonna sell it to some friends but i guess i'll hold on to it for now.
so inject sust EOD for 10 weeks is what your saying and 30mgs of d-bol for 10 weeks as well

no only run the d/boll for 4 week's at 30mg

inject half a ml of sust EOD draw the other ml up in another syringe and leave untill you need to inject again it will be ok if you lave it for a short time a couple of day's

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:49 PM

ok sounds good,, thanks for the input!!!
will i need an anti estrogen or does it basically depend on the person and their body type

**Booz** · 06-19-2005, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by stocky121

no only run the d/boll for 4 week's at 30mg

inject half a ml of sust EOD draw the other ml up in another syringe and leave untill you need to inject again it will be ok if you lave it for a short time a couple of day's

like stock has stated mate run the dbol 4 weeks at 30-40 mg ed,and shoot the sus eod if you can although some people do use it twice weekly,but becoz of the prop in it eod would yeild the greater results and less chance of any sides.

**scav** · 06-19-2005, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by gearedup711

ok sounds good,, thanks for the input!!!
will i need an anti estrogen or does it basically depend on the person and their body type

Get it.

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 01:59 PM

thanks for the help guys,,,hopefully the stuff does wonders

**stocky121** · 06-19-2005, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by gearedup711

thanks for the help guys,,,hopefully the stuff does wonders

only if your training diet and rest is in place first

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 02:03 PM

it already is, ive been training for a couple years now, im only 20, was on creatine nitric oxide, i know its basically water retention but it still raised my strenght, take in about 150-200g of protein a day

**Gizmo** · 06-19-2005, 02:37 PM

You need to bump up that protein!

What do you weigh?BF?

Giz

**gearedup711** · 06-19-2005, 02:42 PM

weigh 185
bf 6.5

**Gizmo** · 06-19-2005, 02:48 PM

I'd say try to eat at least 280G of protein a day, and from the looks of your BF you don't really eat enough calories either, you wanna grow you will need to eat A LOT.

Don't be scared to put on a little bodyfat, the gains in lean mass will be well worth it.

Giz