test e sides

**dragon69** · 05-26-2005, 01:23 AM

I have read many conflicting reports and profiles on the net on test e. The confusion is about sides. Some say sides are a given when taking test e, others say it's rare.

The profiles here on this site say that test e can lower BF levels if it's around 600mg, but elsewhere some profiles say nothing about it. 1 site I saw tonight said when you're on test e you will get water retention, and fat GAIN unless you stack with a cutter.

WTF? These differences are really starting to piss me off.

So what's the scoop here in regards to fat...lower/raise BF or no real effect?

If indeed these sides (like fat gain) are likely with 500mg test e, then would nolva prevent this?

**MrKadugen** · 05-26-2005, 04:38 AM

bump

**esone** · 05-26-2005, 05:48 AM

i dont know wherer you got that test e will give you fat gain? never heard that and i dont believe that it is true. and as for the sides go, there are a few that you can get just like anything else. test e mainly has sides of water retention and gyno which both can be supressed with nolvadex or there are a few others that guys use . do more research.

**Big Rig** · 05-26-2005, 06:19 AM

the only side I experience is acne. Just on my back though. I'm entering wekk 11 on my cycle. I've gained almost 30lbs and sltill wear the same size pants as before.

...but, everyone is different. See, this is my first cycle. The next one I might not get so lucky on.

RA · 05-26-2005, 07:34 AM

You will hold some water that will fall off after cycle.

**O.fO.shO** · 05-26-2005, 07:38 AM

I've ran testE twice and my sides were :

Hairloss , gyno symptoms(1st run only) , acne .

I never looked like i retained any water at all , but everyone is different .

**dragon69** · 05-26-2005, 11:30 AM

great.....glad to hear I don't have to worry so much about that. My concern was that the info was inconsistent from site to site. here's one example of what I found when researching (I compare and contrast different sources since the most consistent info is obviously the truth)
http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.co...ead.php?t=8398
scares me to see sheet like that

**taiboxa** · 05-26-2005, 11:32 AM

i have never had any sides from test alone.. only benefits but everyone is diff...

**fighteveryone** · 05-26-2005, 11:33 AM

the sides i got were water retention, minor acne, and a raging hard-on all day.

**taiboxa** · 05-26-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by fighteveryone

the sides i got were water retention, minor acne, and a raging hard-on all day.

see raging hard on is a benefit.. not a side
thus i had no sides

**fighteveryone** · 05-26-2005, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

see raging hard on is a benefit.. not a side
thus i had no sides

this is true.

**dragon69** · 05-26-2005, 11:50 AM

boy and I get them bad enough now......my woman has a hard enough time recovering from a solid pounding from me as it is. The 24hr boners sound good to me but I bet it'll scare the crap outta her.
My buddy who used to crank said he f**ked his girl 5X in a row and couldn't she go anymore so he was down in the porn shop reading magazines. Ha ha ha cracks me up.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 05-26-2005, 11:51 AM

Everyone is different. I get no sides (acne when I come off), but it also is based on doses...Higher doses will yield more sides......

**sasquatch** · 05-26-2005, 12:04 PM

I don't think any form of Test will contribute to fat gain. Diet can do that, but not the test itself. Just some additional water gain, like I get, but like it was already mentioned, that comes off after cycle.
I am predisposed to gyno so I take Nolva at 20mg a day while on cycle, and that helps with the bloat (when on test only). Other than that, the only sides I get are mild acne and oily skin. I also get test flu (serum sickness) for about a day or two, randomly throughout the cycle... that is, if I go above 500mg/week.

**taiboxa** · 05-26-2005, 12:16 PM

test will actualy contribute to fat loss due to increase in protein synthesis, GH production and increase metabolic rate or like. but diet is the primary factor of all phsyilogical changes and gains. its 80% of your physique .. and imo its everything.

**dragon69** · 05-26-2005, 12:33 PM

ya that's what I thought....like I've said before I think some people eat at mcdonalds everyday during their cycle, get fat from it, think it's their cycle and forget all about the crap they ate during it. Pretty sure that's what it is.
I once had a condid talk a few years ago with a retiring BB who had won a number of shows and he told me that whatever you eat while you're on is magnified on your body and that you then have to eat super clean while on. This amplification can be good solid food or crap food.....so I really do think people who get fat from test are eating fast food likely way too often.

**elicotton** · 05-26-2005, 08:42 PM

I retain water like a mofo on test e, but the only other side is acne (cystic acne on the face and back) during pct.

**1-Cent** · 05-26-2005, 08:57 PM

Test is one of the only AAS that actually burns fat directly, "cutter" AAS do not exist, its entirely diet dependant. If you gain fat its because you're eating like you're on a bulk, water rentention can be controled with Nolva or eliminated with Letro.

**taiboxa** · 05-26-2005, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by 1-Cent

Test is one of the only AAS that actually burns fat directly, "cutter" AAS do not exist, its entirely diet dependant. If you gain fat its because you're eating like you're on a bulk, water rentention can be controled with Nolva or eliminated with Letro.

Tren eats adipose like a mofo but kills your thyroid..

**1-Cent** · 05-26-2005, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

Tren eats adipose like a mofo but kills your thyroid..

Yeah I think Test and Tren are the only two. In what way does it affect your thyroid?

**bor** · 05-27-2005, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by dragon69

I have read many conflicting reports and profiles on the net on test e. The confusion is about sides. Some say sides are a given when taking test e, others say it's rare.

The profiles here on this site say that test e can lower BF levels if it's around 600mg, but elsewhere some profiles say nothing about it. 1 site I saw tonight said when you're on test e you will get water retention, and fat GAIN unless you stack with a cutter.

WTF? These differences are really starting to piss me off.

So what's the scoop here in regards to fat...lower/raise BF or no real effect?

If indeed these sides (like fat gain) are likely with 500mg test e, then would nolva prevent this?

- the fat gain and loss depend on your diet
- the sides are not severe - some bloat, acne and hairloss if you're prone to them, more body hair growth
- nolva prevents the bloat and gyno to some extent

**dragon69** · 05-27-2005, 10:40 AM

goes to show the source that posted that on the website had no idea what they were talkin about. This is the best place for info that I've found to date. Thank you everyone for all the help.
I've been cutting lately and it's coming off pretty good, so looks like I'm good for the test-e then. Hmmm, maybe it'll even help it along.

**inevitable** · 05-27-2005, 12:25 PM

test enth makes me hold alot of water and my back breaks out pretty bad.... if ur worried y not try test cyp.

**taiboxa** · 05-27-2005, 12:26 PM

cyp is a longer ester and so it has a lil more potential for bloat plus less % (though its minimal) of raw test per mg

i always support and advocate PROP

**tempbrit** · 05-27-2005, 01:34 PM

Prop is better, however, for first cycles Prop has its issues. Primarily due to the increased number of injections required.

Test C or E for a first timer is ideal. It allows you to get comfortable with the injections (only 2 p/w). After a few injections or a cycle, you can probably step up and do everyday injections, but injecting everyday would not be fun for first timers.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 05-27-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

great.....glad to hear I don't have to worry so much about that. My concern was that the info was inconsistent from site to site. here's one example of what I found when researching (I compare and contrast different sources since the most consistent info is obviously the truth)
http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.co...ead.php?t=8398
scares me to see sheet like that

I'm not a member there...what does it say?

Also...you can compare and contrast different profiles..but how many have 10-20 medical journal's cited? How many are just conjecture? If you want, you can look up all of the citations I've made to verify that my profile is 100% accurate. Can you do that with the profiles on WCBB? I don't know, because I'm not a member there....but I doubt you can.