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If I could get some advice whether I shoud take Trenbolan or Anavar with my Winstrol. I've got the Winny but have to decide on the Tren or Anavar. I will be doing this cutting cycle for 8 weeks. My goal is to get lean and hard after a bulking cycle of Sostenon, Deca and Dbol for 10 weeks (Dbol for only 4-5 weeks). Any help would be appreciated.
umm.. how about.. prop as backbone of that ordeal?
and running var and win together yeah.. im going to say you need to research....
and tren is MY FAV all time cept for prop.. but be redy for some neat stuff.
I agree....two 17aa s at the same time is not a good practice. You need a base for in this cycle and in this case it should be prop. Remember you need to let your body recover between cycles....time on = time off.Quote:
Originally Posted by taiboxa
Propably not a good idea to run var and win together. Or Tren/winny without test. You might consider 1)Prop/var or winny 2)Prop/tren/var or winny 3) Var only-if you have enough. IMO best results with option #2
Yup yup, prop, tren and winny is a sick combo
What is it with all these first-timers stacking??????
Am I the only one worried...?
A first cycle should be:
Option 1:
Oral Only 6-8 weeks (DHT-derivative)
Option 2:
Test Ester with maybe the final 4-6 weeks a DHT-derivative
Greets
Kingofmasters
Thanks for the advice. The only reason I wasn't planning on running propionate is that just prior to starting the anavar and tren, I will have been using sostenon for 8 weeks prior so I think those receptors would react well to more test propionate. Should I switch from the sostenon to propionate beginning week 9 and run that with tren and anavar? I think this should be one hell of a cycle.
BTY I have been cycling for years so this is not my first one.
Thanks again guys, I really appreciate your input.
Soo....maybe 6-8 weeks of anadrol for a beginner? Or 6-8 weeks of Winstrol?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofmasters
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Originally Posted by hooker
anadrol is not a DHT-derivative!!!
Winstrol, Anavar, Mestanolone and Miotolan are...
Yes i agree on that, do yourself a favor and just do a 8 week cycle of T-bol.!
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Originally Posted by kingofmasters
Wow. With all of those exclamation points, you must be correct.
I suggest you take another look at the structure of Oxymetholone. It is DHT derived. Try reading "Androgens and Anabolic Agents: Chemistry and Pharmacology" by Julius A. Vida or simply refer to it's less common name:
2-hydroxymethelyne-17a-methyldihydrotestosterone
That's the 2nd name listed for it in the "Merck Index 10th Edition".
(for those playing this game at home, you can simply refer to page 23 of Anabolics 2004, where Anadrol is listed under the page titled "Dihydrotestosterone derivatives" or you can look at the book Chemical Muscle Enhancement where it says under the Anadrol profile "DHT Conversion: This is a derivative of DHT")
And, King of Masters, while I'm at it:
Lose the attitude or go elsewhere.
What attitude?
Here's the way you've started some of your most recent posts:
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Originally Posted by kingofmasters
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...Not trying to be a jerk, but what is it of your knowledge that you are referring to?
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You have to be joking right?
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That's a stupid ass remark ...
I don't know where you think you are, but AR isn't the place for that garbage.Quote:
Yeah so you think...
8 weeks of tbol...wouldn't that be way too dangerous for your liver, or can you go longer because its a milder compund?
I've run winstrol at 100mgs EOD and gotten my bloodwork back to normal quickly. In fact, I ran Dbol at 25mgs/day for 10 weeks when I was 19 y.o. and when I got my post cycle bloodwork, the only things out of range were:
RBC: 5.68 (high)
Iron: 289 (high)
Uric Acid: 2.0 (low)
Hepatoxicity is waaaaay overblown IMO.
So you're not taking any time off between these two cycles? :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by closer1868
holy shit hooker....10 weeks of dbol.....what happened to you and your gains afterwards is what id like to know.
Ok...lets keep in mind that I was 19 and I'm now 27....so this wasn't the most brilliant idea in the world...
But at the end of the first 6 weeks I was at 195lbs, up from 170, and I ended the cycle at 10 weeks, when I got to 198lbs. By my next cycle (3 months later) I was around 183lbs. I gained 28lbs and kept 13 of them, on my first cycle.