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    Please help me a little, newbie.

    Im thinking about taking 8 tabs every day, in 4 weeks. How is that? 200 in the box.

    "methandrostenoloni 0,005. akrihin" in a white box.

    Are there any changes of loosing the "sperm production" for ever?

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    oral only cycle's are shit bro use an injection test eth or cyp is this your first cycle??

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    Definitley... if you want real gains that you can keep, embrace the needle.

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    Ok. But is 8 a day for 4 weeks good for a newbie like me? Yes it is first cycle

    Can i loose sperm production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Ok. But is 8 a day for 4 weeks good for a newbie like me? Yes it is first cycle

    Can i loose sperm production?

    not sur eabout how many a day... I would say 30 mg a day is good for a newbie. I would not exceed 40 mg a day of D-bol or the like.

    loose sperm prod? not sure about that but d-bol by itself can give you some limp d!ck. getcha some test enan or cyp. do a minimum 8 week cycle. I like 10. use D-bol as a strength jumpstarter just for the first few weeks. I never exceed the 4th week on d-bol wiht a test cycle. then make sure you have the right compounds for pct... chlomid, nolva... if you stay at 10 weeks or under you can avoid HCG . do some forum searches bro... there is a lot to be learned here.

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    Ok, but the problem is that im going in the army soon, 1,5 month.. so i need to do it now! before i enter.. What do you mean with "limp d"?

    What happens if i do a cycle in 4 weeks?.. And do i need some tests you say? Compounds for PCT, is that something additional i need to take? HCG is?

    If someone answers this, it would be really nice.. I am a little afraid taking these things.. I'v done them for 2 days.. training 5 days a week.

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    Just leave it alone, you are going into the Army and you're going to look like Nemo w/a limp dick.

    What's the point?

    Not a flame, but it doesn't appear by this thread that you are anywhere near ready for this type of thing.



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    is PCT something i have to take for my cycle?
    Last edited by traindog; 05-31-2005 at 09:57 AM.

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    What the h*ll is PLC?????

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    Swole Cat is definitley right bro. If your going in the Armyu, I wouldn't even bother and to be honest - you really should have educated yourself a lot more before putting anything into your body - whether it be wiht a needle or orally. I spent a long time searching forums and researching before I put my first thread out there and definitley before I started a cycle... Good luck in the Army man.

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    Typing error, i meant PCT.

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    PLC=Pussy Ludes Coke and yea u need to do that for ur cycle

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    Ok. Is it medicin of some kind? what does it help for?

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    Is it neccesary even if i only use methandrostenoloni in one month? 8 a day..

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    Please, research a ton or you are going to hurt yourself or worse, kill yourself.

    It means POST CYCLE THERAPY and it's what one does to get his hormonal balance NORMALIZED again after utilizing exogenous substances.

    Hold off, read for a good while, understand, and you will be FAR better off.

    Be all you can be, then when you understand AAS and what is involved, you can attempt to be more.

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    yea u need pct to help get ur hpta started up.....hey SC atleast he wont get a hard on in the community showers at boot camp

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Is it neccesary even if i only use methandrostenoloni in one month? 8 a day..
    Using that alone is pointless, I thought we went over that already?

    You will gain 20 lbs. of water and look like Nemo.

    Wow, what fun.

    If you want lean muscle tissue and to better your lean mass to fat ratio, you have a lot to understand/read/grasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Ok. Is it medicin of some kind? what does it help for?
    Dude... PCT is Post Cycle Therapy . an essential part of every cycle. I strongly advise you to stop before you really get yourself sick man or something. You really need to educate yourself man. Not a flame but nobodu on here minds if you ask a lot of questions educating yoursefl. we would all much rather see that than somebody who started already woithout the knowledge. use some common sense bro. Like I said, not a flame, but really. this isn;'t for you right now. You don't even know what PCT is!

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    Very well said MMA!

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    Sorry SC, I didn't mean to echo you on this, I just saw your reply farther up saying the same thing...

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    Ok, i'll stop then.. And get more educated first.. Did the two days to any harm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Maddawg
    Sorry SC, I didn't mean to echo you on this, I just saw your reply farther up saying the same thing...
    Hey, we are on the same page, no harm in that!

    ~SC~

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    bump -- Hey swole, now this guy is asking if his stuff is real and that he plans on taking it and "what do you mean I should take test with this"
    What did we waste outr time for??

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    haha

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Maddawg
    Definitley... if you want real gains that you can keep, embrace the needle.


    haha embrace the needle, thats awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Using that alone is pointless, I thought we went over that already?

    You will gain 20 lbs. of water and look like Nemo.

    Wow, what fun.

    ~SC~

    SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Using that alone is pointless, I thought we went over that already?

    You will gain 20 lbs. of water and look like Nemo.

    Wow, what fun.

    If you want lean muscle tissue and to better your lean mass to fat ratio, you have a lot to understand/read/grasp.

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    More like "Sponge Bob"

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Ok, i'll stop then.. And get more educated first.. Did the two days to any harm?

    No, 2 days you will be fine......

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    Ok, too bad! I was really looking forward.

    Cant i just take on cycle without taking any extra PCT? Doesnt it affect the muscles anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Ok, too bad! I was really looking forward.

    Cant i just take on cycle without taking any extra PCT? Doesnt it affect the muscles anything?
    PCT is a necassary part of every cycle. When you inject test, you shut down your own test production. it won't start up again by itself when your done. you take the chlomid and nolva after the cycle to do 2 things; keep your gains and get your natural test levels up again. if you don't do pct, your levels will fall below normal once the test you shot is gone and when that crashes you can have all kinds of problems.

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    Ok! Then i will wait untill i get a little older, finished in army an so on.

    I'v taken 8 tabs in two days now! I quittet after that! do i need PCT now?

    Hope not, dont know where to get it here in scandinavia..

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    Quote Originally Posted by traindog
    Ok! Then i will wait untill i get a little older, finished in army an so on.

    I'v taken 8 tabs in two days now! I quittet after that! do i need PCT now?

    Hope not, dont know where to get it here in scandinavia..

    No. Only taking 8 tabs, you will be fine.

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    16 tabs together in two days... 8 each day.. is that still ok? dont need PCT? quitted after 2 days..

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    your fine. drink a lot of water, take your daily multi-vitamin. your fine.

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    Ok!Thanks.. how do i know if im 100% fine? Im training 5 times a week.. drinking alot of water!

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    As long as you feel good and are blowing loads like before, your just fine bro.

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    Ok! Great.. Yeah it's the same as before, i havent noticed anything different these days ..

    My girlfriend still needs to suffer when the job is done!

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