Im in

**Bertz** · 06-01-2005, 11:40 PM

Stuck myself for the first time today
It was painless, didnt even feel the needle go in

T prop 75mg

will be doing it ED for 10 weeks
.5 mg armidix ED also

typical clomid and nolva pct

I know prop isnt recommended for beginners, but its what i have and what im doing.

**hckykrt91** · 06-01-2005, 11:42 PM

well good luck with your cycle. have fun with your gains and dont get greedy and keep going stop when you have to stop and dont hop back on too soon.

**runko** · 06-01-2005, 11:43 PM

painless.. prop ??? what until 2marrow

**Bertz** · 06-01-2005, 11:44 PM

its human grade prop

and thank you hckykrt91, im sure its gonna be tough coming off

**Scrub** · 06-02-2005, 12:01 AM

Tell us how those daily injections are doing in about a week or two. I was thinking of running prop but I'm glad I didn't because of the frequent injections.

**Bertz** · 06-02-2005, 04:02 AM

alright i'll post after a few weeks, its a little sore where i injected now, but not bad at all just a lilttle bit

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 06-02-2005, 04:07 AM

i started again today too... my legs is sore... hope that tren i made was clean!

**stocky121** · 06-02-2005, 04:38 AM

welcome to the darkside bro

**TDS** · 06-02-2005, 05:25 AM

welcome abroad bro... ed shots are a pian in the arse, especially for first time goers. however, seeing as though this is ur first, u'll c excelent results within the first few wks, and i assure u then, u'll be waiting impatiently til ur next shot. good luck!

**almostgone** · 06-02-2005, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bertz

Stuck myself for the first time today
It was painless, didnt even feel the needle go in

T prop 75mg

will be doing it ED for 10 weeks
.5 mg armidix ED also

typical clomid and nolva pct

I know prop isnt recommended for beginners, but its what i have and what im doing.

..just wondering why aren't you using any Nolva...say 10mg Nolva ED and drop the L-dex to .25mg ED.....

**The Baron** · 06-02-2005, 08:33 AM

I don't think there is any reason for a beginner to avoid prop, as long as he is okay with ED shots. 10 weeks of prop, for your first cycle, at 75mg/ED sounds pretty sweet. After your last shot, wait until you feel (you will feel it) your test levels hitting bottom before starting pct and your recovery will go very nicely. If you have hcg on hand, you could do three or four shots, E3D, 500 iu or a bit more, last shot coinciding with last prop shot. This is NOT really necessary, though, so don't buy it if you don't already have it.

One nice thing about short estered drugs is that you can fiddle with the dosage to manage side effects or gains, and see a difference in only a week on the new dosage. You might get the urge at about week 6 to up the dose to 100 or so. Or, and this would be pretty rare, you could be troubled by sides and want to drop it to 50mg/ED. As written, though, your cycle should give you zero probs.

Oh, I agree on the nolva. In fact, I wouldn't bother with the ldex at all. Aromatization at 75mg/ED should not give you est levels that can't be managed with nolva, and nolva also has other benefits besides blocking estrogen.

**Bertz** · 06-02-2005, 02:04 PM

i have plenty of nolva... just from what i read the ldex raises igf1 levels where nolva drops them? i know its not much but i figured betterto have em raised a little

i can switch to nolva if that would be better

baron thanks for the response, always helpin me out bro
and everyone else too thanks lol

by the way my right glute is sore today, feels like i got punched there, my left glute will feel it tomarow i guess, just shot in my second shot!