A cycle question out of curiosity . . .

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 02:33 PM

What would have the quickest and best results . . .

a cycle with. . .

oral t-bol + var

-or-

oral t-bol + winistroal

-or-

var + oral d-bol

-or-

var + oral d-bol

OR any other combos of these or any other oral combos

sorry if this comes across as a rediculous question, but please just give me your suggestions . . .

thanks a lot

**Testsubject** · 06-02-2005, 02:35 PM

An oral only cycle is a

**longhorn814** · 06-02-2005, 02:36 PM

how about some test? Isnt oral, but definitely will give you better results

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 02:37 PM

i know oral cycles suck . . . but thats also why i said just out of curiosity so please just give your suggestions

**mark956101957** · 06-02-2005, 04:43 PM

try prop or test e and OT

**stocky121** · 06-02-2005, 04:53 PM

try some form of test bro and not oral test. oral only cycle's are shit

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 06:00 PM

yea i now they suck . . . but if u had to pick the BESt of the WORST what would you suggest . . . please justhelp me out with this and i wont bother u guys with these rediculous questions anymore

BG · 06-02-2005, 06:21 PM

Dont worry about injecting, its cool , like smoking cigarettes when you were a kid(LOL)NY

**ace ventura** · 06-02-2005, 06:41 PM

Definitely t-bol and var combo if any.. cause they are both mild on the htpa and little sides.

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 06:45 PM

is t-bol and var better than an anadrol 50 cycle or a anadrol 50 plus another oral roid or something??? (by the way, i appreciate the reply ace)

**ace ventura** · 06-02-2005, 07:03 PM

I'm not experienced on this but I would personally not toutch something like anadrol . It's the strongest oral steroid (anabolic and androgenic , and also lot's of possible sides) and very toxic. Definitely not for a first timer.

I would consider t-bol or anavar much better in terms of oral only cycle. Anadrol would be nonsense, the same for dbol .. What you get is tons of water in your muscles which will leave soon and make you small again.. They are used to jumpstart a cycle with injectables.

I know a guy that did some anadrol (and sustanon ) and he said it was a very extreme drug.. It just exploded inside the body.. can you imagine that fealing?

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 07:07 PM

woooow . . . thanks for that info i'll stay waway - but what can i expect from a t-bol only cycle or a t-bol and var cyle?

**ace ventura** · 06-02-2005, 07:16 PM

If it's your first cycle then 10+ lbs is possible with tbol (i.e 40 mg for 4-6 weeks). It's really hard to tell.. Don't expect to get huge. You can add a few pounds and get harder and leaner.

First of, you should know your goals before doing anything. If you want to be big then wait till you're ready to inject.

You should use the search function (anavar , turinabol ) and read for yourself.

**sgoldberg** · 06-02-2005, 07:21 PM

may sound stupid but . . ..

will the gains make more of a cut-up look or just big and massive?
for example, will my arms be mig and massful or defined and cut?

**ace ventura** · 06-02-2005, 07:33 PM

It's not stupid questions but you should do your own research really.

I would guess the results will be more cut-up than big and massive. But you can gain a little qualitymuscles, espesially on a first cycle. People also respond differently.

Turinabol and anavar is two different substanses but the results are similar.. tbol is a little stronger than anavar so you can probably expect more mass with tbol.. anavar is good in cutting cycles. If you read the profile http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=164369 it says;

"Now here’s some interesting stuff for anyone interested primarily in the fat burning properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid ”. Abdominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no excercise. In addition, weight gained with ‘var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you’ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. (...)"

Anavar only cycle can supress natural test level and probably supress sex drive.. tbol will increase sex drive..