Thread: Oxandrolone or Prohormonal?
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06-03-2005, 08:55 PM #1New Member
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Oxandrolone or Prohormonal?
Hello
This morning i was investigating about oxandrolone and the chemical name I see BigCat profile (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catanavar.htm), and this other of intox (http://www.intox.org/databank/docume...ctionTitle:3.2)
On the two i see:
BigCat: 5 alpha-androstan-2-oxa-17 alpha-methyl-17 beta-ol-3-one
Intox: 17beta-Hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-2-oxa-5alpha-androstan-3-one
molecular weight: 306
They are identically changing the groups order and the same molecular weight, then i know the "official" farmaceutic oxandrolone.
Later, investigating more i see in other labs
2-Nor-5a-androstane-1,3-diacid, 17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-1,3-seco
molecular weight: 338.44
And it is sold like oxandrolone. Its probably that i commit a mistake, but i think they are prohormonals and differs a lot of the "real" oxandrolone.
In addition it surprises to me, it don't know that exist prohormonal oxanandrolone, and I see many derivatives...
I commit a mistake? Its a thymus? Its Real? Anyone knows ?
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06-04-2005, 05:37 AM #2
Wtf??!!!
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06-04-2005, 07:08 AM #3New Member
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I think that are laboratories who sell derivatives of oxandrolone that is not the same and have less power, but they say that he is oxandrolone.
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06-04-2005, 12:23 PM #4
eh??
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06-04-2005, 03:54 PM #5
I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
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06-04-2005, 03:58 PM #6
I think I get you, laungage barrier killing us I thnk...There fake they just use real names to sell there product..I think he's asking if the pro-hormones that are named like real ones d-boll,winnstrol,anavar ,etc.. actually real??
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06-04-2005, 04:02 PM #7
oh you mean like oxavar from gaspari. it's MOHN.
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06-04-2005, 07:49 PM #8I think he's asking if the pro-hormones that are named like real ones d-boll,winnstrol,anavar,etc.. actually real??
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06-04-2005, 09:19 PM #9New Member
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Hello!
Sorry for my bad english, I tell you again.
Yesterday investigating about oxandrolone, i see the BigCat profile(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catanavar.htm), and intox profile(http://www.intox.org/databank/docume...ctionTitle:3.2)
In both we see :
Bigcat
Molecular formula: C19H30O5
Chemical Name: 5 alpha-androstan-2-oxa-17 alpha-methyl-17 beta-ol-3-one
Molecular Weight: 306
Molecular structure:
Intox
Molecular formula: C19H30O5
Chemical Name: 17beta-Hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-2-oxa-5alpha-androstan-3-one
Molecular Weight: 306
Molecular structure: not available but is the same product and the same structure
They are equal on molecular formula, chemical name and molecular weight, with that I thought that this oxandrolone is the "real".
But later, seeing other laboratories webpages I found other oxandrolones.
Lab A:
Molecular formula: C19H30O5
Chemical Name: 2-Nor-5a- androstane- 1,3-diacid, 17b-hydroxy -17a- methyl-1,3-seco
Molecular Weight: 338.44
Molecular structure:
Lab B:
Molecular formula: C19H30O5
Chemical Name: not available
Molecular Weight:not available
Molecular structure: not available
This labs call this products oxandrolone, but differs a lot of the first products.
Then I think: Is the same oxandrolone? Will this derivates work like the real oxandrolone or it will be a crap?
Sorry if you dont understand me
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06-04-2005, 09:56 PM #10Originally Posted by Kersh
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06-05-2005, 06:41 AM #11The later will not work like Oxandrolone. Nuff said.
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06-05-2005, 06:58 AM #12
Lab B, has the moloecular formula as C19H30O5 but there is only 2 oxygens, still 19 carbons, but i only count 23 hydrogens
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06-05-2005, 12:25 PM #13New Member
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think of it this way, H2O is water, but modify it slightly to H2O2 and it becomes hydrogen peroxide. similar chemical makeups does not give similar results
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