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    2nd cycle help (winny and deca)

    question about winny. for my first cycle 500mg test-e for 12 weeks with 25mg of d-bol for first 4 weeks. good results, from around 150 lbs to 170 lbs. 2nd 12 week cycle will be same but want to use deca and winny this time. how much and where in the cycle should i use it if at all. 28-6'1"-175lbs very low body fat.

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    You should add test to that.
    test 500
    deca 300
    winny 50mgs ed towards the end.

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    I'm assuming you know about PCT? Didn't see it mentioned...

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    you should have waited to gain some weight naturally before juicing. what's done is done but i think at your height you should at least be 200 lbs or so before starting. that should be really feasible

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    i did gain roughly 20 lbs naturally over a few years of training, i was very very skinny. i just have a fast metabolism and a physical job where i basically burn calories all day. i did research for a long time (learned alot from this forum) and did not jump into this blindly. i would like to get to around 200 lbs but it wouldn't happen naturally.

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    with that attitude it won't happen.

    at your height, with the right training and enough calories, 200 lbs would be very easy. if you don't grow, you're simply not training hard enough and/or not eating enough.

    and if your job was THAT bad where it's very hard to gain, it certainly wouldn't be ideal to work there if mass is important enough for you to want to juice

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