1st cycle

**dmcf99** · 06-08-2005, 04:23 AM

since this is my first cycle i figured i would just go with test only first to see how my body reacts too it... i had to choose prop b/c of the low detection time..

wks 1-10 prop 75mg/ed
wks 11-13 clomid pct

any problems? thanx a lot

**MatrixGuy** · 06-08-2005, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by dmcf99

since this is my first cycle i figured i would just go with test only first to see how my body reacts too it... i had to choose prop b/c of the low detection time..

wks 1-10 prop 75mg/ed
wks 11-13 clomid pct

any problems? thanx a lot

Looks good bro. Will you be running nolva with this? You don't mind sticking yourself everyday either?

RA · 06-08-2005, 05:57 AM

After sticking yourself everyday for 10 wks, you prob will not ever do the juice again.

**millionmillionaires** · 06-08-2005, 12:54 PM

Nah man, ED injections aren't that big of a deal if you are serious about your weight.

Shoot, I still get excited about injections and I've clocked over 100 injections (various chems, b-12 included) I'd say.

RA · 06-08-2005, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by millionmillionaires

Nah man, ED injections aren't that big of a deal if you are serious about your weight.

Shoot, I still get excited about injections and I've clocked over 100 injections (various chems, b-12 included) I'd say.

You do prop your first time?

**stocky121** · 06-08-2005, 01:13 PM

i will have to do 168 injection's in my next cycle i carn't wait

RA · 06-08-2005, 01:14 PM

You do get used to it but-prop, ed, first time-no one else gets this?

**stocky121** · 06-08-2005, 01:16 PM

i don't for my first time i coulden't inject my self ED

**dmcf99** · 06-09-2005, 12:45 AM

haha, ya i've heard prop injection suck as... could i change to 150 eod, or what?

**Smiley619** · 06-09-2005, 01:21 AM

even then thats a lot of shots! i dont know about 150 eod, but if you think about it is that one extra day gonna make a diff??lol.i was scared to get shot up before...now i cant wait!maybe that will be the case for you...

**Smiley619** · 06-09-2005, 01:22 AM

then again onlt taking 2 shots a week

**dmcf99** · 06-09-2005, 01:28 AM

its not the needle that makes me second guess, its the fact that everyone says prop is terrible pain with the infections that can occur, especially for a first cycle.... i dont mind pain that much so i am pretty sure i will be able to take it...if you've dont prop before, am i wrong to think i can take it? I might lower my cycle to 8 wks

**dmcf99** · 06-09-2005, 02:09 AM

bumpage

**bignatt** · 06-09-2005, 02:35 AM

why dont you just run enanthate >

**dmcf99** · 06-09-2005, 02:40 AM

detection time

**bignatt** · 06-09-2005, 02:44 AM

Ok well i think you should get some 100mg/ml and shoot 50mg each day

**dmcf99** · 06-09-2005, 02:48 AM

10 or 8 wks?

**bignatt** · 06-09-2005, 02:50 AM

thats really up to you id go 8

**The Baron** · 06-09-2005, 10:31 AM

Nothing wrong with that cycle. Remember, with the shorter ester, you can shorten the cycle if desired. Probably 6 weeks would be a practical minimum. 8 or 10 weeks, 75mg/ED of prop, I would have no problem recommending for a first cycle. Can always stop at any time after week 6, after all. That's only 42 shots.

The prop will hurt a bit. Pain varies from person to person, of course. Be sure to rotate your injection sites well. Divide the shootable part of the gluteus maximus into three zones, for 6 sites. Add the glute minors for another 2 sites. Quads are good for 3 or 4 zones each... that's another 6 sites. Delts make a couple more, and pecs 2 or 4 more. That gives you a nice easy rotation of about 18 injection sites. The most common mistake I see or hear about in beginners is ED shots without sufficient rotation. If you willy nilly shoot glutes ED, eventually you are injecting right into an existing bolus of oil from previous shots. Scar tissue builds up, too. So spread it around. At a minimum, learn to do quads as well as glutes. Quads are super easy. I prefer to hit them right before or right after training, so I am not training them through injection site pain from a shot a day or two before.

**thejuiceisloose** · 06-09-2005, 10:35 AM

ED shots, ouch!

**The Baron** · 06-09-2005, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

ED shots, ouch!

Not so bad, with proper technique and a new, fresh, sharp 25ga pin for sticking. The shot itself should be painless... just the prop ache later on.

**topvega** · 06-09-2005, 11:51 AM

yeah the shot itself is cake with a 25g as long as u don't hit a nerve... it's the ache afterwards... i say go for it, like the baron said u can always stop after 6 weeks if it gets to be too much... good luck.