Deca ... and deca d*ck?

**noober** · 06-08-2005, 01:51 PM

Hey guys im new to the forum and appreciate any information you can give me...
I am starting deca soon as my first cycle (norma hella deca, alone) im going to do an 8 week cycle at 400 a week (200 monday and thursday). I am aware that deca dick is a possible side effect. My question is, does this side-effect go away after you stop the cycle? Also do your balls shrink like they do on test?

and also if anyone could give me any advice on what to do to have as little side effects as possible, and keep gains, or just direct me to where i can find that sort of information please tell me.
Will i keep most of my giains?how much should i expect to lose post cycle?etc

I also need to learn about PCT but anyway my main question for now is the deca dick issue... i will gladly post before and after pictures but need to know stuff like this before i start and i have to start soon.

I'm paying $350 for 16vials of deca for 8 week cycle... he says that $40 of the $350 is western union charges... is that a good deal?

I thank you for anything you can do to help me,
-Noober

P.S. i have a bottle of 1-ad... would that be good to add to the cycle? or is that just stupid and would that bring up more side-effects.

**Booz** · 06-08-2005, 01:53 PM

no test?
if this is your 1st cycle i recommend you do a test cycle as your 1st mate,and by the way 8 weeks is not long enuff.

**Habanero** · 06-08-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by noober

Hey guys im new to the forum and appreciate any information you can give me...
I am starting deca soon as my first cycle (norma hella deca, alone) im going to do an 8 week cycle at 400 a week (200 monday and thursday). I am aware that deca dick is a possible side effect. My question is, does this side-effect go away after you stop the cycle? Also do your balls shrink like they do on test?

and also if anyone could give me any advice on what to do to have as little side effects as possible, and keep gains, or just direct me to where i can find that sort of information please tell me.
Will i keep most of my giains?how much should i expect to lose post cycle?etc

I also need to learn about PCT but anyway my main question for now is the deca dick issue... i will gladly post before and after pictures but need to know stuff like this before i start and i have to start soon.

I thank you for anything you can do to help me,
-Noober

P.S. i have a bottle of 1-ad... would that be good to add to the cycle? or is that just stupid and would that bring up more side-effects.

From what people say about a deca only cycle, you'll be lucky to get an erection, and even if you do it will be a weak one and when you ejaculate, very little or nothing will come out. I am by no means an expert, but everyone will say, "need to run it with at least 400-500 mg. test/wk."

**Swifto** · 06-08-2005, 02:00 PM

You need to iclude Test in your cycle (as 'booz') has already stated. Its essential.

There are many threads on 1st cycles and PCT. Here are some links:

This may help:
Here is some more useful info:

Hookers Test Enan Profile:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165040

Hookers Test Cyp Profile:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=164730

Hookers Clomid Profile:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=167828

Good 1st cycle Info, "RON"
Newbies this is for you

Clomid FAQ:
Clomid Facts and Questions Answered!

Enan/Cyp are suggested as 1st cycles due to there spaced out injection times of 2x per week. PCT must also follow, the Clomid link will help.

PCT must be carried out at the end of the cycle to help attain gains made during the cycle. PCT is done to increase the bodies natural testosterone production due to it being shut down (injecting synthetic Test).

An 8 week cycle of Deca will cause you many problems. Some being 'Deca Dick' and gyno related sides such as progesterpme gyno which can be difficult to treat and prevent. Trust me stick with Test only for a 1st time.

Any more questions, feel free.

**noober** · 06-08-2005, 02:01 PM

thanks but, well im asking if the effect will go away post cycle and also please respond assuming that no matter what this is going to be a deca only cycle i doubt that i want to mess with test and probly cant afford to stack...

**Booz** · 06-08-2005, 02:06 PM

if you do pct you will get normallity back soon after but if you do not it could take up to 6 months to cum back naturally,test is just as cheep as deca ,deca only i would not endorse some will but most would not.

**noober** · 06-08-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

An 8 week cycle of Deca will cause you many problems. Some being 'Deca Dick' and gyno related sides such as progesterpme gyno which can be difficult to treat and prevent. Trust me stick with Test only for a 1st time.

Any more questions, feel free.

well i had always heard, and my research has shown that deca had less side effects and you keep more gains and then test had more side effects and you keep less... im out to have this be my first and last cycle, go in get gains safely and leave with them...

thank you all for your fast replies keep them comin

**Booz** · 06-08-2005, 02:13 PM

you will not keep more gains than test mate do sum research on this forum,test only will build more muscle than deca ,

**Swifto** · 06-08-2005, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by noober

well i had always heard, and my research has shown that deca had less side effects and you keep more gains and then test had more side effects and you keep less... im out to have this be my first and last cycle, go in get gains safely and leave with them...

thank you all for your fast replies keep them comin

If your looking at the Profile's on the main site 'Steroid .com' they are out of date.

Your research and what you have 'heard' is wrong. Do some proper research. Read about Test and how its the building blocks of muscle strength and mass.

With proper PCT you will keep more gains with Test than a Deca only cycle.

Simple.

**topvega** · 06-08-2005, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by noober

thanks but, well im asking if the effect will go away post cycle and also please respond assuming that no matter what this is going to be a deca only cycle i doubt that i want to mess with test and probly cant afford to stack...

bro, deca only, especially for a first cycle is a real bad idea...
if u were looking for people to tell u that it is an ok cycle... the majority of the people on here won't... y would u not want to "mess with test"? but u r ok with shootin deca alone, which will give u more sides and less gains???

do some research b4 u use any gear... jmo

**Swifto** · 06-08-2005, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by noober

thanks but, well im asking if the effect will go away post cycle and also please respond assuming that no matter what this is going to be a deca only cycle i doubt that i want to mess with test and probly cant afford to stack...

Yes, your natural testosterone production will eventually recover. This may take a long time though, perhaps even years. Deca is extremly hard on one's natural testosterone production (HPTA). Some user's still are not recovered after many years after the use of Deca. Still erection issues can occur.

**noober** · 06-08-2005, 05:36 PM

Thank you all for your help I am considering going with test instead now i will create a different post for that matter though. Does anyone have experience with test and wouldn't mind me PM'ing them at some point? If so please post or PM me.
Thanks,
-Noober

**rocketman954** · 06-08-2005, 07:29 PM

I am just reading this through doing some research, and I have a question on the same topic. If you do the test e and deca stack, is the "deca dick" as bad since you have the test in too? I will be doing my first cycle b4 long and the test e deca was what I was going to do... now I am reconsidering.

**rocketman954** · 06-08-2005, 08:35 PM

So you dont get deca dick if you stack with test.... right?

**TiptronicSoldier** · 06-08-2005, 08:38 PM

Anyone I know who has gone deca only, even with mild doses has gotten some kind of gyno, its cheaper to add test then spend $1300 getting it cut out

**topvega** · 06-08-2005, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by rocketman954

So you dont get deca dick if you stack with test.... right?

just make sure u run the test higher than the deca ...

**The Baron** · 06-09-2005, 11:28 AM

Deca dick is not a possible side effect from a deca-only cycle... it is a PROBABLE side effect. Yes, your nuts will shrink. Recovery will probably take a lot longer than for a test cycle. Eventually everything will return to normal, but the wait will be excruciating and you will lose a lot if you can't get your test levels back up quickly.

Deca is known for well-kept gains. But keeping them depends on a reasonable recovery. Test with the deca and continued afterward, would help with that a LOT.

For a single drug cycle, test is the way to go. I predict disaster and regret from your planned cycle. It is POSSIBLE that it will be successful... others have reported good results from deca-only, but it is far more likely that it will suck.

If I were you, I would save the deca for another cycle. Save your money and buy enough test to run 300 to 500mg/week for 10 or 12 weeks, and do that, with proper pct at the end. NEXT cycle, get more test, and add the deca. This is a proven strategy with a proven track record and success rate. Of course, keep the test higher than the deca, and stop the deca a couple weeks before the test is stopped. ALWAYS have everything you need for PCT as well as estrogen management, before your first injection. This is SO important! You mustn't find yourself suddenly needing nolva or other ancilliaries and not be able to get any for two or three weeks! You want it on hand, for immediate use if needed, and I don't mean the next day, either.

The prices you paid are reasonable if the gear is worth the money to you. Are they the little 2ml vials, 100mg/ml? If so, I wouldn't pay that much, but there are those who will. You engaged in voluntary, negociable commerce and any sale that you both agreed to, to which both parties lived up to their part of the bargain, is fair. If the price seems too high, next time ask for a lower price, and refuse to buy at any price you think is too high. Your money, your choice. BTW, you actually shouldn't post the prices. Not as bad as posting the source, but it will rub some hackles up.

Again, I would NOT do what you intend to do. The sides will go away but it could take a very long time. Please, be good to your body.

**ALLGONOQUIT!** · 06-09-2005, 12:04 PM

I liked it and didn't get limp dick at 600 per week. Do some nox with it and that'll get you up if not then viagra or cialis. Definitely if possible though get some test even if it's200 mg per week. Just anything.

**AG5678** · 06-09-2005, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by ALLGONOQUIT!

I liked it and didn't get limp dick at 600 per week. Do some nox with it and that'll get you up if not then viagra or cialis. Definitely if possible though get some test even if it's200 mg per week. Just anything.

Do you know how stupid you sound?