Steriod Fatigue?

[lavaman]

Is it possible to get fatigue from using AAS?

I'm taking 500-750 mg test-cyp/week 50mg winny ed, 4iu gh 5on2off, my diet is pretty clean and I workout 5-6 days a week for 1-2 hours. ( including cardio). I know GH causes a little triedness, but lately I'm not in the mood as I used to be i'm on week 7, and I expected a huge boost of motivatioin!

[thejuiceisloose]

What are you taking 500 OR 750mg of Test Cyp?

[lavaman]

i strated out on 500, and the past 2 week bumped it up to 750. i splut up the injections..

[thejuiceisloose]

I wouldn't fluctuate with dosages like that. What was your reasoning on doing that? What does your cycle look like? How many weeks are you running each?

[lavaman]

Well I started out at 500 mg and then at week 5 I bumped it up to 750 and I'm going to stay at 750 for the rest of the cycle. I'm also taking winny at 50mg, and 4iu of gh ed....

[lavaman]

sorry,
the test cyp I will run for 12 weeks, I just started the winny last week and will run it for 8 weeks, ( injectable) and I just started taking some arimidex .5 mg ed, and nolva 10mg...
the gh i'm on week 8 and will run it for 10 months.

[thejuiceisloose]

ok,..are you running the winny later in the cycle @ about week 10? see you could run something like:
1 – 12 Cyp 500mg/wk
10 – 15 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED and of course proper PCT
IMO you shouldve stayed @ 500mg/wk of Test Cyp. But to answer your "tired" question, perhaps the fluctuation in test intake may be the cause. Also if you feel tired maybe try taking some vit B12, gives you energy but will increas your appetite, wich in this case is good

[lavaman]

ok,..are you running the winny later in the cycle @ about week 10? see you could run something like:
1 – 12 Cyp 500mg/wk
10 – 15 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED and of course proper PCT
IMO you shouldve stayed @ 500mg/wk of Test Cyp. But to answer your "tired" question, perhaps the fluctuation in test intake may be the cause. Also if you feel tired maybe try taking some vit B12, gives you energy but will increas your appetite, wich in this case is good

yes the winny will be run from weeks 7-15,
the test-cyp bumped up because I didnt feel much from the 500mg..and I thought if I bumped it up it would give me more energy.

How do I do the b12?

[lavaman]

Do you guys think the fatigue could be a sign of liver problems..

[thejuiceisloose]

Do you guys think the fatigue could be a sign of liver problems..

You could either inject vit B12 or buy vitamin B12 pills anywhere, Walgreens it's cheap. I wouldn't run winny for 9 weeks though, its very tough on the liver bro. IMO you should run some Milk Thistle for that winny, helps your liver a little

[lavaman]

I just finished a 4 week course of 2000 mg ed milk thistile extract..

[lavaman]

I'll try the b12, I'm currently taking b6 along with all these other multivitamins..

I just expected a huge boost of energy to lift weights from the AAS,, I know GH causes some fatigue. .maybe that's it.

[thejuiceisloose]

could be, do you feel sleepy @ times even though youve slept 7-9 hrs?

[lavaman]

I sleep 7-9 hours everyday but at the end of the week from working out and stuff, I feel especially burned out.. .
could be overtraining?

[thejuiceisloose]

hmmm how long has it been since youve taken 1 week off of working out? how often do you workout?

[lavaman]

I've never taken a week off, I'm afraid I'll get weak and complacent and lazy.

I've been working out hard for 4 months 6 days a week, 2 hours a day.

[lavaman]

btw, how many posts do I need to be a member instead of a junior member LOL

[thejuiceisloose]

Sounds like overtraining to me. Personally after 4-5 months I take a week off doing nothing. When I go back to the gym I feel like a million bucks, yeah your strength MAY go down a tiny bit, but you get it back right away. You need to give your body rest and IMO 2 hrs @ the gym is way too long & I train 5 days straight 2 days off, everyone is different but that is what works for me. I spend the most 1 hr 15 min, thats when the gym is packed!

[thejuiceisloose]

btw, how many posts do I need to be a member instead of a junior member LOL

lol I think 300?

[lavaman]

The problem is I'm actually lifting weights for 45 minutes and the rest is watching some hot chicks ass through the reflections of the mirrors while their on the tread mill.. ****ing test gets your distracted with every piece of tail.

I'll try to cut back .. how does this sound

Monday,, chest
tuesday biceps/shoulders
wed back/tri
thur chest
fri biceps/shoulders
sat back/tri
sun off..

[thejuiceisloose]

lol I know what you mean about the chicks, when Im off cycle I get nuts looking @ hot chicks @ the gym, but when Im on cycle I have to really control myself! What happened to legs bro?

[lavaman]

OH ok.. the legs thing lol.. here's the deal with that..

I'm ****ing 380 pounds.. and i'm at 40 percent BF, I had a pituatary tumor that screwed me up for 2 years now I"m down 50 pounds and been working out .. the problem is my lower body is allready strong and I have huge calf muscles and...after I get my uppper body back into shape and I drop some more weight then I will go back to legs..

I'm conserving all my energy for upperbody.. when I first started I could barely bench 1 plate.. and now I'm up to 275 after 4 months

[lavaman]

the messed up thing is I've been married for 2 years and my wife was used to me having a low testosorone, and below average sex drive and now i'm back in action and she only wants to do it 2 times a week, and if it was up to me 2 times a day is barely enough.. so the gym chicks are looking really appealing lol.

[thejuiceisloose]

lmao, test is great isnt it? Ok here's the w/o I do, you can use it if you want help yourself, I'll explain the reasoning behind my w.o.
Mon => Chest and tri, abs (rested Sat & sun so your muscles are nice and fresh & tricep is the secondary muscle in the chest w/o)
Tue=> Legs(hams & quads) (to let upperbody rest)
Wed=> Shoulder & traps,abs
Thur=> Back and bi's, calves (bi's are the secondary muscle in the back excersices)
Fri=> endurance or light chest, abs

[lavaman]

Hmm i'm going to try that.. next week..

Let me ask you a seperate question..
Since i'm on week 7 of 12 of my test-cyp/win/gh etc..cycle..
well I notice more drastic gains by the end of the 12 cycle or have I peaked at week 8..

[thejuiceisloose]

You should have noticed the test kicking in @ about week 5-6. Maybe you may not notice THAT much but other people will. Oh I almost forgot your bf% is a bit high so I suggest you eat very clean and do lots of cardio. As for the winny the gains are minimal but are keepable gains, vs other gear

[lavaman]

Dude, imagine I dropped my bf to 40 from 56 in 4 months pluss i'm hitting the cardio hardcore with 1 hour a day on the treadmill and 2000 calorie a day.
I bumped the calories up while i"m on cycle to 2500 because I was feeling dizzy.

But anyways, most of my weight is on my gut from the 2 years I had a 40 testosorone level, now it's in the 1000 pluss range, and I'm burning it like crazy..

thanks for the replies

[dirtyvegas]

the messed up thing is I've been married for 2 years and my wife was used to me having a low testosorone, and below average sex drive and now i'm back in action and she only wants to do it 2 times a week, and if it was up to me 2 times a day is barely enough.. so the gym chicks are looking really appealing lol.

LOL YOUR A FUNNY GUY...LMFAO....IF THATS HOW IT IS BEING MARRIED, I GUESS ILL NEVER GET MARRIED THEN..I GET ALL THE SEX I NEED ..LOL ITS ALMOST TOO MUCH...

[lavaman]

Bro,, your better off single and not attachted.. especially while your on gear..
As soon as you get married they change on you, the carrot that was waved in front of your face starts becoming a barging chip..

Why don't you romance me first, i'm not in the mood, massage me first.. and shit while your on gear you just want to get your nut on.. lol

[thejuiceisloose]

Dude, imagine I dropped my bf to 40 from 56 in 4 months pluss i'm hitting the cardio hardcore with 1 hour a day on the treadmill and 2000 calorie a day.
I bumped the calories up while i"m on cycle to 2500 because I was feeling dizzy.

But anyways, most of my weight is on my gut from the 2 years I had a 40 testosorone level, now it's in the 1000 pluss range, and I'm burning it like crazy..

thanks for the replies

Damn bro 40 test levels?!? Have you tried getting the gear actually prescribed to you? Yeah that dizzy feeling is not good, you should eat some oatmeal & a protein shake before the gym

[dirtyvegas]

Bro,, your better off single and not attachted.. especially while your on gear..
As soon as you get married they change on you, the carrot that was waved in front of your face starts becoming a barging chip..

Why don't you romance me first, i'm not in the mood, massage me first.. and shit while your on gear you just want to get your nut on.. lol

HAHA LMAO HOLY SHIT DUDE YOUR CRACKIN ME UP...FU*CK DAT I JUST WANNA FU*CK AND I LET THEM KNOW THAT FROM THE BEGINNING..OR I SHIP EM HOME...

HERES MY MOTTO.. TREAT EM LIKE SHIT...**** EM GOOD.. AND THE'LL ALWAYS COME BACK FOR MORE...!!

[lavaman]

my dr presecribed me 150 mg a week of test cyp.. but I'm taking more.. then that.. because, I want to get my strength and physque back up..

I know everyone says to loose the weight first but I dont want to look like a smaller out of shape version of me.. I would rather get more muscular, and burn fat simulatanously.. even though it will take me longer.

[thejuiceisloose]

I was going to tell you that, but you beat me to it. I would agree on loosing thhe weight first but hey realistically, it's too late now youre allready way in your cycle. So do what you can now.

[lavaman]

BRO, YOUR NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS SHIT...

But I became a captain save a ho, when my test levels were down to 40.. that's how I got married.. I was this nice senstive guy.. and now since I've been properly diagnosed and I'm on test.. I'm back to my jerkoff ways.. and my wife can't deal with it.

My motto is " PUTGO! ".. put out or get out!
My second motto is .. SW, SW, SW, next! Some will, some won't, so what, next..

[lavaman]

I was going to tell you that, but you beat me to it. I would agree on loosing thhe weight first but hey realistically, it's too late now youre allready way in your cycle. So do what you can now.

2 years ago, I dropped 150 pounds on a liquid diet wihtout working out.. and Looked like shit afterwards..

Now, at least I have defintion and I have more energy and stamina.

[thejuiceisloose]

BRO, YOUR NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS SHIT...

But I became a captain save a ho, when my test levels were down to 40.. that's how I got married.. I was this nice senstive guy.. and now since I've been properly diagnosed and I'm on test.. I'm back to my jerkoff ways.. and my wife can't deal with it.

My motto is " PUTGO! ".. put out or get out!
My second motto is .. SW, SW, SW, next! Some will, some won't, so what, next..

That's awesome nice moto there....

[lavaman]

Hey Drity Vargas,

How the women out in LV? You got the cream of the crop and their stacked!
Most of them are gold diggers, but it must be great.

[thejuiceisloose]

eww liquid diet, certainly not good @ all for your body. Allright then what I can tell you is work hard, & be dedicated, & don't look @ the chicks,.....too muuch lol
Dont want to get in trouble with the mrs.

[lavaman]

Thanks "thejuice",
i"m allready in trouble with the mrs., that's another story....

I'm signing off.. thanks for the feeback, take it easy bro!

[thejuiceisloose]

Hey Drity Vargas,

How the women out in LV? You got the cream of the crop and their stacked!
Most of them are gold diggers, but it must be great.

Sh** you should see the chicks here in Miami.... outta hand. For sure you'll get in trouble here