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    I'm Pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Help please.

    I have just ended this cycle:
    wk 1-10 EQ @ 500mg wk
    Wk 8-12 Winny 50mg ed.
    Clomid started today, 3 days since last winny pills.

    Here is my problem,

    I am fat as fuck! I gained a shit load of muscle but my waiste and hips and upper body feel alot fatter. My diet is good, i ate alot!!! My stats are 6'4 235lbs 16% BF. I started the cycle at 219lbs 13% bf. What have i done wrong or is this common??? My goal was to cut, which my muscles are way more defined, but my mid section looks alot bigger.

    Advise please!

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    are you sure you ate clean? describe your meals and diet plan.

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    Hmm sounds like you didn't eat right, I mean like clean foods. If you ate alot of sodium, or fatning foods. that will cause you to bloat. Usuaully on a cutting cycle, you eat less, I mean not so many calories. You sound like you ate like a horse, and maybe didn't eat the right foods? Did you drink plenty of water?

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    just curious, why did you ask him if he drank plenty of water? I didn't no it affects diet..

    I no its help with gains and keeping the body in good health tho.

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    Diet:

    Water- at least 1-1 1/2 gallons day.

    Breakfast:
    Non fat cottage cheese 2 cups
    Wheat toast 2 pieces w/ PB
    Glass of milk

    Snack-
    protein shake

    Workout at lunch

    After workout snack-
    shake

    Lunch-
    2 cans tuna w/ 2 pieces of whole wheat bread
    apple
    yogurt

    Snack-
    shake

    Dinner-
    Either Bolied chicken or steak
    Steamed veggies
    Salad

    Before bed
    shake

    Tell me what is wrong with that???????????

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    did you jump fast into the calories? like did you go from 2000-4000 very quickly? how much steak did u eat?

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    Re: I'm Pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Help please.

    Originally posted by Moto27
    I have just ended this cycle:
    wk 1-10 EQ @ 500mg wk
    Wk 8-12 Winny 50mg ed.
    Clomid started today, 3 days since last winny pills.

    Here is my problem,

    I am fat as fuck! I gained a shit load of muscle but my waiste and hips and upper body feel alot fatter. My diet is good, i ate alot!!! My stats are 6'4 235lbs 16% BF. I started the cycle at 219lbs 13% bf. What have i done wrong or is this common??? My goal was to cut, which my muscles are way more defined, but my mid section looks alot bigger.

    Advise please!
    I don't see why this would happen if you stuck by your plan religiously. The winstrol and the EQ should have been utilized to offset catabolism in a calorie deficit state. If you weren't eating under maintenance caloric intake, then you weren't acting according to your preconceived goals.

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    sounds like you was injecting cooking oil into yourself//// just kidding

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    Did you use any clen /ECA and how much cardio did you do?

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    little cardio if at all. Did 1 clen cycle about 3 weeks ago and little difference. I do not think that shit works on me.

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    Originally posted by st82hellnbak
    sounds like you was injecting cooking oil into yourself//// just kidding

    i think this is the most logical answer...

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    you might want to bump up your cardio bro.....little if any won't cut it for anybody

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    last time i got serious on the carido routine i lost a bunch of my muscle mass. What do you suggest, running, walking, stair master, bike???? How long? How many days wk?

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    did you want to fuck like crazy while on this cycle??

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    start AM:total 20min-10min jog/10min bike
    PM: total 20 min- 10min jog/10min bike
    5 days a week.....keep tabs on your bf% weekly....depending on your progress you willl have to tweak it..

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    Originally posted by Moto27
    last time i got serious on the carido routine i lost a bunch of my muscle mass. What do you suggest, running, walking, stair master, bike???? How long? How many days wk?
    As stated above, every cutting regimen starts with a diet. Do not do cardiovascular activity excessively if you want to maintain muscle, when taken to extreme cardiovascular exercises can be extremely catabolic.

    Basically my advise to you would be to eat smart foods under maintenance caloric intake. Lower the intensity, up the rep-range at the gym. Larger amounts of volume at higher rep-ranges seem to be significantly less demanding on the CNS, which is an important factor when you are eating minimal calories.

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    FUCK!!!!!!!! My wife was pummped!!!!!!! Eq makes your dick bigger! She is going to be upset after it all goes away. i think i spoiled her!

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    your goal will be to lose 1-2lb fat per week.... without losing mass....you will have to adjust cardio and keep a weekly tab on bf%

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    thanks bro.

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    no problem

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    Eq makes your dick bigger!

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    that was prolly the winstrol ....dht has a huge effect on sex drive and that sort of stuff.....

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    Dude, it was the EQ for sure. About 2 weeks into the cycle, my shits was exploding!! My wife couldnt get enough. I think that the idea of having a huge dick makes your drive better all by itself. Especially after you are married and you see the same thing everday.

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    i doubt your dick got bigger.it was probably an optical illusion from having smaller balls

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    doh! and the truth comes out...

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    Originally posted by 4plates
    i doubt your dick got bigger.it was probably an optical illusion from having smaller balls
    funniest post I have read in days!

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    lol 4plates

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    haha 4plates, that was awesome!! i think if EQ made a males dick get bigger, everyone male in the whole world would be using it!!! i doubt ron jeremy used it! look at the fuckin gut that man has!





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    that was great i have to admit. Pretty funny.

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    Originally posted by 4plates
    i doubt your dick got bigger.it was probably an optical illusion from having smaller balls
    that WAS da funniset post i have read in a few days

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    hey moto how did u like that cycle??? plan on starting a simuliar cycle soon. was that your 1st cycle, how much did your strength go up???

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    My strenght is ridiculous!!!!!!!! Great cycle if you want to be strong and not bloat.

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    was this your 1 cycle?

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    4th cycle.

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