considering a dianabol deca cycle , does nolvadex need to be used and follow with clomid ??? also would winny be any good to throw in or should i save for cutting? :D
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considering a dianabol deca cycle , does nolvadex need to be used and follow with clomid ??? also would winny be any good to throw in or should i save for cutting? :D
I would say not really, but you can use it. The d-bol will change your natural test levels, but the nolva will have no effect on the progesterone build up from the deca.Quote:
Originally posted by visine224
considering a dianabol deca cycle , does nolvadex need to be used and follow with clomid ??? also would winny be any good to throw in or should i save for cutting? :D
I am on a SUST/DBOL/DECA stack right now and I am coming off the dbol's wednesday, waiting nine (9) days and switching to winny.
Winny is good to run with deca, but since the dbol and winny are both 17-AA steroids, you must be careful due to the fact that they are both processed by the liver and put a fair amount of strain on it.
You might consider adding some form of test to your cycle, to counteract the less desirably effects of the deca.
XBiker -
How many weeks did you take the D-Bol for and how many weeks do you plan to take the winny tabs for?
I was tossing around the idea of a similiar cycle this winter.
- Bulldog :cool:
I ran the d-bol for 3 weeks, took 2 weeks off and have ran it for about 4 more weeks now. D-bol absolutely rocks, the pumps are insane and it makes me want to lift non-stop.
As for the winstrol tabs, I have 50 MG pills and I plan on running it for the last 3.5 weeks of my cycle.
Looks real similiar to what I am planning:
10 weeks
weeks 1 -10 Deca 400 mg/wk
weeks 1-4 D-Bol 25 mg/day
weeks 1-8 Sust 500 mg/wk
weeks 7-10 Winny 50 mg/day
weeks 9-10 Primo 400 mg/wk
clomid, prov, nolva and all that jazz as needed.
my mouth is starting to water just talking about it ;)
I might switch the winny out for Anavar. Don't know, still thinking about it.
if you dont want to deal with both estrogen and progesterone sides and don't mind more frequent injections ditch the deca for some equipoise and you'll only have the estrogen based sides to possibly deal with which is much easier than dealing with progesterone induced gyno from what i hear.
just a thought.
I do agree with this somewhat. I will not be using deca in my next cycle and will use EQ. You can get the EQ @ 200 MG/ML now a days, so you don't have to go through the 50 MG pin cushion deal.Quote:
Originally posted by sp33dg33k
if you dont want to deal with both estrogen and progesterone sides and don't mind more frequent injections ditch the deca for some equipoise and you'll only have the estrogen based sides to possibly deal with which is much easier than dealing with progesterone induced gyno from what i hear.
just a thought.
I started this cycle with EQ and switched to DECA. My buddy stayed with EQ his entire cycle and he has done very well.
Looks good to me. You could swap out the DECA for EQ as sp3 and I have mentioned. You are gonna retain some water from the SUST and the DECA, not to mention the DBOL. If you went the EQ route instead, you would be a little less puffy and have better vascularity.Quote:
Originally posted by bulldog
Looks real similiar to what I am planning:
10 weeks
weeks 1 -10 Deca 400 mg/wk
weeks 1-4 D-Bol 25 mg/day
weeks 1-8 Sust 500 mg/wk
weeks 7-10 Winny 50 mg/day
weeks 9-10 Primo 400 mg/wk
clomid, prov, nolva and all that jazz as needed.
my mouth is starting to water just talking about it ;)
Just a thought....
I'm on the same cycle, would go for eq. rather than Deca.
M2c