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    Italian Connection

    Hi guys, i'm new here and i want to greet you all.
    I've been training naturally since five years but i finally realized that without juice i'm not going further.
    I'm a -21 yo 189 lbr 6 ft-of italian guy.....with a 12% of sucking fat )
    i've trained really hard to achieve these goals but now i reached a plateau for no more gains seem possible.
    I've been reading your threads for long time then decided to register and be a part of it.
    Italy is no longer "the european mexico" and lots of good drug were retired so it's hard to create a good cycle with only national products.
    A friend of mine owns a pharmacy,so i've the opportunity to get this stuff:
    -deca 50 mg
    -andriol
    -proviron
    -testovis (proprionate)
    -testoviron (enant+prop)
    -testo enant OTC
    -stargate (stanozolo) [ yes. the old good winny but in veterinarian form]
    -insulin

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    that is everything you can get in my country.
    there is also GH but my friend says that i cannot give it to me because this drug is strictly monitored by our Ministero della Sanità ( italian counterpart of us FDA)
    i've been doing some research for my own and i think i'do something like this:

    8 weeks-
    deca 50 -100 - 150- 200- 200- 150 -100 -50
    test 150 x week
    or
    8 weeks-
    andriol 160-200mgXday
    proviron 50-100mgXday

    what do you suggest? i don't want to become huge. i''m looking for a cycle that would give me a burst,and once interrupted i'd like to keep gains as much as possible.

    thanks for your attention.
    Your Italian friend

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    How about 10 weeks of just testosterone ?

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    Test only for first cycle is the best way to go. It's easy, and the Number of pokes every week is minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxer600
    Test only for first cycle is the best way to go. It's easy, and the Number of pokes every week is minimal.
    yes i agree with this,500mg each week split into 2 shots 10-12wks,correct pct afterwards is more than enuff for a 1st cycle.

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    same as above
    have a nice day

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    thanks for replying. I think too that test is a good choice even because it is cheaper than deca : 50mg of deca cost 15,14 euro ( approx 12 dollars ) and testoviron 250mg it's about 9 euros. the question is that a friend of mine, a 50 yo ifbb pro, told me that test won't be the best choice for me 'cause it has a strong effect on my endogenous test production and can increase my gyno (yes i got gyno in my childhood without touching 'roids), so he suggested deca.
    what you say? i'd like to run the most safe cycle as possible.
    Thanx

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    Well if you have gyno then I would think Deca is not for you...
    Like Hooker said TEST will work fine for you,Its a good place to start
    Good luck Bro

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    here this is a link too all the steroid profiles that hooker has done theyre correct and very good to fallow. nice info for you to start here and choose for yourself to which ones will be best for you..but like hook said i think test should be a first cycle.

    hope it helps you::

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102

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    you will get gyno on deca as wwll mate,test with nolva will be fine.

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    i think i will have an operation so the gyno will go away. Does anybody knows if i will get it back if i'll run a cycle after the operation?

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    Hey Italian Stallio,stargate Is Like Winstrol Or More Toxic???

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    actually you don't need surgery letrozole ( femara ) will reverse It. it takes a little while .....

    500mg of test -e letro 1.25 eod as much food as you can eat and clomid and tamoxifen for your Pct...Do a search " eat to grow " it will get you straight

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