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    nolva vs. proviron

    I am on 500mg enanth and 400mg dec getting alot of bloating I have been told to use nova...what about proviron is it just as good? Does drinking too much water cause bloating too? Please help
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    thanx bro


    you could also try adding proviron as well as nolva

    drinking more water=less bloat

    also cut your sodium intake to a minimum

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    what about the gains

    will adding both stop the gains?

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    Nolva stops the effects of estrogen production

    Proviron stops the estrogen before it gets produced...

    I personally use 50mg proviron ED and keep nolva on hand just in case.

    Drink at least a gallon per day bro, not drinking enough water causes bloat (when the body lacks water, it attempts to conserve it and bloats you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
    Nolva stops the effects of estrogen production

    Proviron stops the estrogen before it gets produced...

    I personally use 50mg proviron ED and keep nolva on hand just in case.

    Drink at least a gallon per day bro, not drinking enough water causes bloat (when the body lacks water, it attempts to conserve it and bloats you).

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    Would you say proviron or letro was better at keeping you hard/less bloat?

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    It's really a personnal preference... letro does have some negative sexual side effects on some people... proviron is quite the oposite... large doses of proviron may even cause priapism.

    Anothing thing to consider is that proviron isn't as cheap as letro... but for my money it's well worth it.

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    Letro is stronger than proviron , but it is probably more than you need. It' probably too much. You don't want to suppress too much estro or your libido will leave you. Not to mention the fact that it can lessen your gains to some degree.

    Personally, I use a low dose of Adex (.25mg) for bloat and at times proviron for a little extra kick in the libido. Sometimes I need a little libido boost when running Deca or Tren with Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales
    Sometimes I need a little libido boost when running Deca or Tren with Test.
    You and me both bro

    I find that 50-70mg proviron ED keeps the estro and bloat well in check for me.

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    I would run the airemadex and .5 throughout the rest of cycle, and keep nolva on hand just in case

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    Thanx Redketchup. So using proviron and nolva would take care of any issues of gyno? Than say letro and nolva? I have used letro before to see what effect it would have on my gyno issues (not steroid related) @ 2.5mg every day. The loss of sex drive does not bother me and its back to normal now, although i feel i orgasm alot more quickly now for some reason

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    Letro is a lot stronger than proviron bro, but of course that all depends on the individual and how much you use. They both prevent the formation of estrogen. Nolva doesn't prevent estrogen formation, but it blocks some of it's effects like gyno.

    Large doses of letro destroy your libido, large doses of proviron can cause painfully hard and long lasting erections.

    I guess the only way to decide qhat works best for you is to try them. I tried Adex, I tried letro, I tried proviron... I always had nolva on hand in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
    Letro is a lot stronger than proviron bro, but of course that all depends on the individual and how much you use. They both prevent the formation of estrogen. Nolva doesn't prevent estrogen formation, but it blocks some of it's effects like gyno.

    Large doses of letro destroy your libido, large doses of proviron can cause painfully hard and long lasting erections.

    I guess the only way to decide qhat works best for you is to try them. I tried Adex, I tried letro, I tried proviron... I always had nolva on hand in case.

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    Thanx bro. Could i run proviron AND letro, or would that be pointless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    Thanx bro. Could i run proviron AND letro, or would that be pointless?
    In all honesty bro I have no idea.

    Personally I'm not sure I'd start mixing and matching different estrogen blockers bro... before starting to mix them you may want to at least try them on their own.

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    Thanx bro.

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    i didnt start the thread but thanx evryone 4 answering MY questions also

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