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    experienced cycle... advice appreciated

    alright, startin today
    24years old
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    260lbs
    11-12%bf
    goal: 275lbs
    many previous high test cycles, never used eq and deca

    cycle: 12-14 weeks
    1.5-2g test e and/or cyp a week
    400mg eq/week
    400mg deca/week
    50-75mg/day winstrol towards the end
    40mcg igf-1/day first 25 days
    5-10iu's slin(humulin R) first 25 days

    25mg proviron /day
    20mg nolva/day
    OR
    just the proviron and keep nolva on hand?

    any suggestions to maximize results would be greatly appreciated
    you guys rock
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    use the proviron keep the nolva on hand

    cycle look's good maybe leave the deca out and replace with tren

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    tren makes me one oily MF. i've also used tren and i've always wanted to try some deca to get that extra mass while adding some lean with the eq.
    if i just keep the nolva on hand, should i stay at 25mg/day proviron or up it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbouncinballs
    tren makes me one oily MF. i've also used tren and i've always wanted to try some deca to get that extra mass while adding some lean with the eq.
    if i just keep the nolva on hand, should i stay at 25mg/day proviron or up it?
    well just stay with the deca bro it's all good

    i would up the pro to 50mg a day

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    looks fine I like just the deca and drop the eq IMO there is no need for both maybe up the deca to 600mgs if u drop the eq,not much differences in the 2 IMO eq is a milder deca as for results

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    not true there is nothing wrong with running deca and eq in the same cycle and thay are not similar

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    what differences do u see when u run them,yea more weight and strength from deca but there isnt that much diff,Ill try and find a post that was discussed about this here not to long ago

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    have you run deca and eq or know someone who has run deca and eq ?

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    yes i have run them both,i just dont see a reason to run them at the same time thats all

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    at the same time i mean

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    one gives you lean, quality gains and vascularity
    while the other one gives you bulky mass gains
    why not run them together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbouncinballs
    one gives you lean, quality gains and vascularity
    while the other one gives you bulky mass gains
    why not run them together?
    i agree bro i have never run them both at the same time but know people that have and said it work's great if i weren't running tren in my next cycle with test and eq i would defo be running deca

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    I think that cycle looks great. you will grow like a weed

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    a BIG weed!

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    yeah, they do different things, a quick scan of the profile section will give ya that...why not bump both to 600mgs? ever tried growth? throw in some T3, and consider hcg during...das a lotta test biggun'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    yeah, they do different things, a quick scan of the profile section will give ya that...why not bump both to 600mgs? ever tried growth? throw in some T3, and consider hcg during...das a lotta test biggun'
    not doin 600 of either cuz its the first time on both eq and deca . growth is just too expensive. hcg is in the mail and usin t3/clen or dnp in 6 weeks for a quick cutup for a vacation. any other reason i should throw in t3 besides shreddin?

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    yes, increased protein synthesis...check Hook's profile

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    soooo.... 25mcg/day for the duration of the cycle, right?

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    good looking cycle bro,

    as for the eq and deca , just use one and up the dosage.

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    what about the t3 dosage alpha?

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    oh yeah, gonna add humulin R for duration of igf. prolly start at 5iu's pwo and see how sensitive i am with the igf.

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    ttt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    yeah, they do different things, a quick scan of the profile section will give ya that...why not bump both to 600mgs? ever tried growth? throw in some T3, and consider hcg during...das a lotta test biggun'
    More bad advice , try 600mg the first time WTF?????Sorry BB didnt mean to do this in your thread!
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    one more bumpity bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTSTARTINGNY
    More bad advice , try 600mg the first time WTF?????Sorry BB didnt mean to do this in your thread!
    God son, you're really starting to irritate me, someone needs to take a flyswater to you're little ass...how in the hell is 600mg bad advice? just cuz it's the first time he's used the compound? he's much more advanced than you think, per the 2g of test/wk dose he mentioned, unlike yourself with only ONE cycle under your belt. you've been lifting 13 years and you havent even broken the 200lb mark? good lord, maybe you should start listening to my advice, i bet i could put some size on you

    bbb--IMO, i would run the t3 normally, as suggested in the edu. threads, but maybe someone else has a diff. suggestion...

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