i just wanted to know if could i can take tren and an ephedrin supplement. do i need to use any other juice to see results i really dont want to go with test because i want to loose wieght not gain mass. plus the side effects of test i really dont want to deal with and i had a bad experience with winny so thats out. this is my second shot of tren in 4 days and i havent had any side effects if anyone has had some bad experiences with tren please let me know ive been taking 1cc of tren everyother day. thanks for the input