Test only

i was thinking about a nive second cycle, since i'm not gonna use deca ever again i wanted to try another compound, but since i'm not looking for anything else but mass i thought about test as my only long ester compound.
would you do a frontlaod or a kickstart with dboll? also i wanted to use some winny from the end to PCT.

1: 1000mg test
2-10: 500mg Test Enanthaat
7-13: 50mg winny ED
2-13: 0.5mg liquidex EOD

i did a test400mg/deca 300mg cycle a couple of months ago and i held 16lbs of it from the 21lbs i gained. i just don't wanna stack two amounts of steroids when i can gain almost or even more solid muscle by using less steroids!

i think whit a good diet and perfect training this cycle will fit my goals.
but i'm just curious about the frontlaod, this is my second cycle, never frontlaoded befour. isn't it better to kickstart with another compound like Tbol or dboll , or wil the test really kick in alot faster???

some people like to frontload other dont. if u wanna limit the different types of steroids ur taking then just frontload. im guessin u have all ur other pct.

You must have read one of my frontload comments... I think what you're doing looks great actually.

Why winney over Var tho? From what all I've read Var looks like a great cutting drug, as well as good for strengths and mellow on the sides...

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Originally Posted by TrumanHW

Why winney over Var tho? From what all I've read Var looks like a great cutting drug, as well as good for strengths and mellow on the sides...

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I would guess price... winny is not a bad compound as long as you do not run it too long.

do you think 6 weeks is too long for winny? and whould you prefer 40 mg of anavar for 4 weeks instead?

40mg var for 4 wks is a waste imo
id run var for 8wks at a min of 50mg ed

I hear of a lot of people that run var with good results (if used with test) over a 4-5 week period. In addition, I have been reading more and more about frontloading, and think that it seems to be a viable option over using something like Dbol for a kickstart

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Originally Posted by beast N°1

do you think 6 weeks is too long for winny? and whould you prefer 40 mg of anavar for 4 weeks instead?

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6 weeks at that dose should be fine, if you were running 100mg at about 4 weeks is when I start getting joint pain... Everyone is different. If it is about the money go with winny, if not run 40-60mg of var for 6 weeks.

yes had some money issues lately with the car and stuff , you know.
i'm gonna keep the winny in and do the frontlaod.
and yes I have a PCT planned

week 14-15: nolva 40mg + tribilus 3000mg + creatine + avena sativa
week 16-17: nolva 30mg + tribilus 3000mg + creatine + avena sativa

Nt using clomid deu to severe eye problems caused by it.

would Tboll be a better choice over winny? still don't know if i can find Tboll here in belgium!

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would tboll be a good choice and will it provide keepable gains like anavar?

i don't understand....front loading a long ester? what does that do for you during the first couple of weeks?

But I did my first cycle with 350mg Test E + 300mg deca a few months ago, should this cycle with only test contain more mg than my first one?
Do i have to take 600mg of Test a week for this cycle or can i go with less and still make descent gains?

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Originally Posted by beast N°1

.... i'm not gonna use deca ever again ....

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What was up with your last cycle bro?

i do now man, it was my first, and now i have a libido of a 60 year old!

God, how come people don't EVER hit the search button?

why ???

what would you guys advise to kickstart this cycle, my diet and cardio are set on lean mass, so no dboll, maybe Tboll for the first 4 weeks at 40-50mg/day?

greetz

beastN1 what were you refering to

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i do now man, it was my first, and now i have a libido of a 60 year old!

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