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What would be the best way to cycle these two together. Length of time and amount to take? Also what would be best to take when coming off. Just trying to get an ideal for a friend of mine who is dead set on not using needles. I keep telling him to use them but oh well. Thanks
if he cant use needles he shouldnt even waste time taking steroids!! No exceptions!! Tell your "friend" to get on here and start doing some research before doing anything.
i personally would not advocate usin orals only let alone two together mate.
scratch that var would be the only one!
why do people keep using the "my friend was wondering" biz? dont they realize that we have no idea who they are anyway? damn, anyhoo, dont run dbol and winny together, research a bit more (i would say check the profile section but...........)...lots of people hate oral-only cycles, but i wont lie to you, back when i knew nothing, i ran dbol at a mere 15mg/day for about two months before i went off to West Point my senior year in H.S...packed on 25 lbs and some serious strength...lost a lot b/c of no PCT and the b.s. i went through at the academy, but it can still be effective...are there better routes? fa sho, just my exp...
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if hes dead set on not using needles then just tell him hes an idiot who shouldnt be messing with the stuff...and thats that....if he still does it...then its his fault for what happens to his body...
I have a friend who told me that his cousin's boyfriend's trainer said that using orals only in a cycle is not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
most everyone here will also tell you that oral onlys can be harmful and are junk....only oral that can run alone is var...
are they optimal? hell no, but can you realize gains from them? yes...if this "friend" is absolutely dead set against needles... :rolleyes:
tbol can be run alone
very true, and with pretty good results from what i hear...decent but solidQuote:
Originally Posted by gobig99