Why am I not growing...

**Big Vick** · 06-17-2005, 09:06 PM

Diet is good... trainign is good...

**joe_capone** · 06-17-2005, 09:15 PM

how is it 166mg per shot? if u want better results with sust.. start using 250 eod.. yes a full ampule everyother day.. not the monday wendsday friday crap. theres prop in sust that u gotta keep stable in your system.. if u do that u will get full benifit of the prop ester while the other esters kick in.

**Benches505** · 06-17-2005, 09:17 PM

How many calories are you taking in?

**nomore1324** · 06-17-2005, 09:22 PM

bro you sure your turkish is real, there is so much fake turkish around bro, and with a diet like that and proper rest you should be gaining something by now, unles like benches said you not getin enough calories

**Big Vick** · 06-17-2005, 09:37 PM

ughhhh

**Big Vick** · 06-17-2005, 09:43 PM

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?...t=Turkish+Sust

My sust is 100% identical to this... same SK (exp. date) and same Lot Number and Identical box...

**dazbo** · 06-18-2005, 02:26 AM

from what I know, the sus wont kick in properly until around week 5/6 so its prob just not kicked in yet. So, in a way, the gain you have isnt THAT BAD! This is why people use something like Dbol to kick start for the first 4weeks, or even prop.

**RUI-Products** · 06-18-2005, 05:12 AM

eat more food.......

**Big Vick** · 06-18-2005, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Lion

eat more food.......

Im pretty sure my diet isn't the problem, however I can handle more food so I will eat a little bit less clean

Since im only in my 3rd week, I guess I have to just suck it up and wait it out, I really wanted to see some gains by now but hopefully the future holds some serious size and strength for me.

When did you guys notice REAL strength and size from Sust.. Like when will I get the feeling "wow, I love steroids !"

????

**scav** · 06-18-2005, 01:01 PM

Sust should be run for longe times.

**bigbadbootydaddy** · 06-18-2005, 01:03 PM

Its only been three weeks since you have started. Give it some more time to allow the full effects to kick in. Its possible it may be fake. Do you trust your source?

**Big Vick** · 06-18-2005, 01:47 PM

Im running the Sust for 12 weeks in all... so I think that is a "long time"

Yes I do trust my source, I deal with him on a regular basis friend/aquaintance and its not like he's hiding from me now, we still talk daily so I dont think he would sell me junk! Plus all the pics on the net suggest my gear is legit!

I just want it to KICK IN GODDAMMIT! Is that really too much to ask

**Booz** · 06-18-2005, 01:59 PM

good things come to those who wait!

**keylock** · 06-18-2005, 02:28 PM

MY friend had all most identecal stats to yours. HE was takeing sus and lost a lot of fat gained a lot of mussel but his weaight pretty much stayed the same.

**Big Vick** · 06-18-2005, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by keylock

MY friend had all most identecal stats to yours. HE was takeing sus and lost a lot of fat gained a lot of mussel but his weaight pretty much stayed the same.

I have been keeping up with cardio and a clean diet, and I think fatloss definately has occurred. Thats a good point, that could also be behind the lack of weight gain.

I have changed my goals for the cycle from lean mass ---> BULK!! I started off with chinese buffet yesterday, and ate half a pizza today! Lol.. obviously I wont keep up this trend, but im gonna start adding more cheats hoping to put on mass.

When does Sust kick in for you guys?!

**Thegr8One** · 06-18-2005, 09:46 PM

raise dose and frequency eat more train harder and get plenty of sleep
hey nobody sayd it would be easy

**bvanderwerff** · 06-18-2005, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Big Vick

Yea I know there is a lot of fake Turkish around.. thats what scares me but my stuff is EXACTLY identical to confirmed legit stuff on this site.. I suppose still a possibility that it is fake but I damn sure hope not.

My calorie maintenance level is about 2600-2700...

Right now i'm consuming between 3500-4000... My diet is pretty damn solid.. rest could be a possible issue, but not this HUGE of an issue.

How can i check if my Sust is real... Its almost perfectly clear in my syringe??? It doesnt really cause much pain when injected...

By the way the 166mg is due to 500mg split up into 3 shots...

HAHAHAHAHAHAH man, if you think your maintenance is only 2700 calories, you're not ready to be using roids

c'mon man... IF you're REALLY 204 lbs and 14% bf then your maintenance cals should be more like 32-3500 everyday

I started out as a 155 lbs and 2700 calories was MY maintenance

However, I really hope you can fix it, I'd love to hear your results.. I'm on pretty much the same cycle as you

**scriptfactory** · 06-19-2005, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by bvanderwerff

HAHAHAHAHAHAH man, if you think your maintenance is only 2700 calories, you're not ready to be using roids

c'mon man... IF you're REALLY 204 lbs and 14% bf then your maintenance cals should be more like 32-3500 everyday

I started out as a 155 lbs and 2700 calories was MY maintenance

However, I really hope you can fix it, I'd love to hear your results.. I'm on pretty much the same cycle as you

I'm sorry but I find this statement retarded. People CAN have different maintenance levels depending on a lot of factors, especially thyroid function. I am mildly hypothyroidic and my maintenance calories are over 1000 less than a typical person with my bodyweight. In fact, if I ate at the typical "maintenance level", I would gain weight.

Not everyone is an ectomorph.

**bvanderwerff** · 06-19-2005, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

I'm sorry but I find this statement retarded. People CAN have different maintenance levels depending on a lot of factors, especially thyroid function. I am mildly hypothyroidic and my maintenance calories are over 1000 less than a typical person with my bodyweight. In fact, if I ate at the typical "maintenance level", I would gain weight.

Not everyone is an ectomorph.

man, I'm not an ectomorph at all

if anything my maintenance should be lower than his

I was 210 lbs with 37% bf

I lost 60 lbs from being anorexic, and just got over that about 8 months ago

so if anyone has a ****ed up metabolism, it would be I

**bor** · 06-19-2005, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by dazbo

from what I know, the sus wont kick in properly until around week 5/6 so its prob just not kicked in yet. So, in a way, the gain you have isnt THAT BAD! This is why people use something like Dbol to kick start for the first 4weeks, or even prop.

D@mn bro you look great!

As for the question look into your diet...

**dazbo** · 06-19-2005, 12:23 PM

Thanks Bor. Always appreciate those comments

**Big Vick** · 06-21-2005, 03:22 PM

BUMP!!

Week 4 about to start and no real gains on my Sust!!!

I am eating 4000cals+ where the FU*K are my strength gains?!?!? Did anyone out there really see next to nothing until week 5 or 6???

**dazbo** · 06-21-2005, 04:15 PM

i saw nothing in strength the whole 10wk cycle of 250mg sus and 200mg deca . (Yes i know it was a poor cycle)

**keylock** · 06-23-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by dazbo

i saw nothing in strength the whole 10wk cycle of 250mg sus and 200mg deca. (Yes i know it was a poor cycle)

you should of did a 5 week with 500mg sus and 400mg deca you would have seen sompthing.

**Big Vick** · 06-23-2005, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Big Vick

BUMP!!

Week 4 about to start and no real gains on my Sust!!!

I am eating 4000cals+ where the FU*K are my strength gains?!?!? Did anyone out there really see next to nothing until week 5 or 6???

anyone

??

**crizoc** · 06-23-2005, 07:20 PM

jeez hope u guys have legit gear. the dangers from UGL and scam gear is great. I dont want foreign fluid in my body if i dont know what the hell it is. be careful bros