Mass building cycle... critique

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 05:29 PM

Test-E @ 600mg 1 - 15 (week 1 frontload with 1.2gm)
NPP @ 400mg 1 - 6 (whats the most stable way of running this? do I frontload it?)
DBol @ 30mg 1 - 6 (ED) (I will start at 20mg and inch up to 40mg)
Tren -A @ 60mg 7 - 14 (ED) ( I will start at 50mg and inch up to a max of 75mg)

Nolvadex @ 20mg ED (estrogen supposedly magnifies progesterones ability to cause gyno...)

Arimidex on hand

B6 (what do you recommend)

Dostinex (Tried the liquid, didn't seem to do anything for me, should I get the pill form? I hear liquid is less reliable)

Should I have Bromo on hand?

RU486 WILL be on hand in case I need it

B12 for additionaly appetite and energy during cycle... actually, all the time.

I'm splitting up the Tren from the Nandrolone because they're both progestenic, and I wouldn't want to unnecessarily expose myself to risks... plus, the tren shouldn't be run long, and neither should the DBol, and the reason I'm running the NPP is bacause it's anabolic properties supposedly supplement DBol's anti catabolics very well.

**AG5678** · 06-29-2005, 05:32 PM

I'm about to start Dbol why are you running it for 6 weeks not 4?

**Defconx3** · 06-29-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

I'm about to start Dbol why are you running it for 6 weeks not 4?

Probably to have the synergetic effect with the NPP. It shouldn't be a problem running it for 6 weeks as long as you make sure to have adequate liver protection.

Also, you should consider cutting out the Test ethanate at week 13, that way you can have the esters of the tren and the test clear your body both in week 15. That way you can begin PCT right away.

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 05:52 PM

Shit, I meant to address that;

I'm going to switch to prop for the last 3 - 4 weeks of the Tren phase so that I can quite everything and get in to PCT faster.

Milk thistle will also be in the mix. :-)

**Defconx3** · 06-29-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by TrumanHW

I'm going to switch to prop for the last 3 - 4 weeks of the Tren phase so that I can quite everything and get in to PCT faster.

Good thinking, that should work real well.

**justin2305** · 06-29-2005, 06:00 PM

run the b6 at 200mgs ed while on and throughout pct

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 06:05 PM

Is it an injectible or oral? I know with B12 there's a preference for sub-q

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 06:10 PM

and what about throwing some VAR at 40-60mg ED for the last 4 weeks?

**Defconx3** · 06-29-2005, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by TrumanHW

(whats the most stable way of running this? do I frontload it?)

No need to frontload it because of the fast-acting ester.

Originally Posted by TrumanHW

and what about throwing some VAR at 40-60mg ED for the last 4 weeks?

That depends on how well you know your body. If you think your liver can handle 6 weeks of dbol , then another 4 weeks of moderately high anavar , then go for it, but I cannot say I would recommend it. Some people are more sensitive to 17-aa's then others. Also, the anavar wont really start to kick in until day 21, so I'm not too sure how much it will end up helping.

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 06:16 PM

AH! Good info. And, I was thinking that in having given my liver 6 weeks between the DBol and Var it'd be ready again... hence my splitting them.

NPP is faster than deca , yes, but it's not like prop... anyone have an ACCURATE half life for this drug? Hookers profiles are GONE! :-(

How the hell do I get to them again????

**Two4the$$** · 06-29-2005, 06:19 PM

Why does Var take 21 days to start working? Is this a "frontloadable" AAS or something? ( I assume not at all... but I'm trying to find out the reason it lags.)

**Defconx3** · 06-29-2005, 06:19 PM

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate has a half life of 24 hours.

The anavar gets in your system very quickly, but I would not expect you to notice anything really spectacular until day 21. I am not saying that it will not do anything, but most effects are noticed in the third week of administration. Hope that helps.