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06-28-2005, 06:41 PM #1Banned
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D-bol only. Why not?
"Everyone" here seems to say that you can`t go on d-bol only. Why not? What is it in the d-bol that means you must add even more roid to keep gains?
Isn`t it so that by adding too much roid you`ll end up losing your gains because the difference between the testo levels in your body on and off roids gets too big?
If someone were to compensate for the lack of injectables by, lets say doubling the doses of d-bol, then I could get your point, cus then the short half life would mean a total "crash", but other than that I don`t see why d-bol should make you more prone to losing gains than other substances as long as the doses are low enough for the body to recouparate once the cycle is over.
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06-28-2005, 06:44 PM #2
im not sure why not, but most people that have done it gain lots of "weight" and then lose 90% of it, if u gonna get on steroids u wanna keep 90% of it not lose it
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06-28-2005, 06:48 PM #3
Generally, it is not recommended to run an oral only cycle, the only exception to this is a few Tbol/anavar cycles that I have been hearing people getting good results from. Usually with a dbol only cycle, people have found that it has been much harder to keep their gains. I love dbol, but I think that you should always stack it with an injectable. When there are people more experienced in the game telling you not to do something, you should probably take their word for it.
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06-28-2005, 06:49 PM #4Member
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DBOL only sucking has nothign to do with being 'shut down' and therefore losing gains when you stop the cycle. It has to do with the gains being made of water in the first place. Which means even if you arent shut down that much once you stop taking the dbol the water will leave your muscle.
Picture creatine. It bloats your muscles with water and makes you bigger... But once you stop the water leaves your muscles and yorue back to your real size.
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06-28-2005, 06:50 PM #5Banned
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Originally Posted by fballhoss51
Seems like on one knows what will happen if you try SMALL doses. Seems to me that everyone thinkgs they have to "one up" the guy squatting behind them in the gym and when everyone are advising novice cycles of 1 gram a day and nobody really remembers why, but instead keep saying "that`s what everybody else dose".
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06-28-2005, 06:52 PM #6
even a small dose of 17a is harsh on el liver, i wouldn't do it for longer than four weeks no matter the dose.
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06-28-2005, 06:54 PM #7
i did a cycle of test@500mg wk and dbol @35/mg day and i used tha dbol for 4 weeks, 8 weeks into my cycle i hadnt lost any weight, if i wasnt using test im pretty sure i woulda lost most of my weight gained
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06-28-2005, 06:56 PM #8Banned
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Originally Posted by chris2wire
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06-28-2005, 07:55 PM #9
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06-28-2005, 08:01 PM #10
Oral only cycles suck, do you want your liver to shut down or something. Stick to injects keep your gains
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06-28-2005, 08:16 PM #11New Member
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D Bol is water retention
the first week you'll gain big but a lot of that will be water
once you get off them, you shrink
D Bol is for the starting of a cycle
something to give you a boost while you're waiting for injectables to kick in
a quick kick start if you will
I would imagine if I did a cycle of just D Bol, I would look bloated, puffy, and flat
that's not what you wantLast edited by Sun_Rype; 06-28-2005 at 08:19 PM.
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06-28-2005, 08:31 PM #12Member
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Look power viking, youre like a lot of us, when we have our mind made up its hard to change it.
In all seriousness maybe you should try a Dbol only cycle and see for yourself. Itll only take about 4 week and youll know exactly what we're talking about.
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06-28-2005, 08:40 PM #13
on another board a while there was a post asking for people's results from dbol only cycles, and the conclusion that was drawn that people who responded ended up keeping about 1 lb/wk that they were on dbol only. So if you run it for 4 weeks, you'll keep 4-5 lbs. I can do that just with food. Be a man and use some injectables! I personally dont care for orals b/c they always tend to f*ck up my liver enzymes too.
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06-29-2005, 05:54 AM #14Banned
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Originally Posted by chris2wire
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06-29-2005, 06:02 AM #15Banned
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Originally Posted by longhorn814
Also, I was thinking of doing some d-bol myself, but then I want to know the effect of it first. A substance being "worthless" by itself but then being quite decent when used in a combination with other substances? Hmmm....that doesn`t sound plausible to me.
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06-29-2005, 06:25 AM #16
Hey there powerViking, I understand your Question, maybe because Iīm a Viking to (sweden) The answer is: First of all it shuts you down, meaning that once you end the cycle you wont have any test in your body and therefore cortsol will be the dominant hormone and that is catabolic and will make your muscle dispear . Second: D-Bol is easy converted in to estrogen in your body witch will couse weater retention, and once the estrogen goes away you will piss out all the exesive water and lose weight fast.
You are simply in a very catabolic state when you stop taking the D-bol and that will eat up most of your gains.
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06-29-2005, 07:24 AM #17Banned
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Originally Posted by Big M
If I tell my friend on the d-bol only cycle to take a week off training after finishing his cycle and/or at least add some clomid afterwards he should be able to have some decent gains after all then. I told him to expect about to keep about 4-7 kgs of BW, but that I didn`t know for sure as I haven`t tried orals before. Guess I might not end up as a liar after all, then.
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06-29-2005, 09:23 AM #18
IF he takes the entire dose in the morning (and not to much, I would say max 20mg) Since the halv-life of d-bol is so short (3h apx) only 0,6mg will be left in the blood 12h later (And since it is during sleep natural most test production ocur) He should not be to suppresed (hopefully) And he has to eat alot post cycle since the insulin will take most of the cortisol away. And Most important take a good dose of clomid. Hes gains will depent on diet and exercise.
This is of course like the others has allready said not a very good cycle to say the least. Test isīnt that expensive and gains are much more easyly retained
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06-29-2005, 06:50 PM #19Banned
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Originally Posted by Big M
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06-30-2005, 12:41 AM #20
it's interesting that u mentioned 20g/day. i am currently doing this just for a little boost, dont anticipate all my gains to be due to dbol . i am eating right and working really hard. is that 20 grams a good idea. and what about clomid, how exactly due i use that pct for the purpose of keeping gains?
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06-30-2005, 12:44 AM #21
Well first off i don't like D-bol because of the bloat, estrogen conversion....
BUT d-bol is an anabolic steroid at least, isn't it? So therefore it promotes protein synthesis. If a substance promotes protein synthesis you actually gain muscle while using it, or am I mistaken??
Of course you gain a lot of water too, but thats another story.. And i don't think 1lbs LBM per week is that bad....
Nevertheless i think d-bol only sucks
RG
Alex
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06-30-2005, 09:43 AM #22it's interesting that u mentioned 20g/day. i am currently doing this just for a little boost, dont anticipate all my gains to be due to dbol. i am eating right and working really hard. is that 20 grams a good idea. and what about clomid, how exactly due i use that pct for the purpose of keeping gains?
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