My next cycle : susp/deca

**bor** · 07-03-2005, 04:24 AM

OK so I'll be doing a "semi" lean bulker (meaning I'll try not to get too fat) starting september.

I was thinking :

test susp 100 mg ED
deca 400 mg / week
tamox citr ED
maybe 12,5 mcg T3 per day??????????? (to aid in protein synthesis)

and I have a couple of questions :

1. Is the susp fat acting enough that I don't need d bol to kickstart the cycle?

2. When will the deca kick in and would you bump it to 600 mg or is there no need?

3. Is the susp worth it with the ED shots or would I get the same results by just using 750 mg of test e per week? I mean are the benefits (site injections, more free testosterone , fast acting...) worth the trouble with the ED injecitons?

**stocky121** · 07-03-2005, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by bor

OK so I'll be doing a "semi" lean bulker (meaning I'll try not to get too fat) starting september.

I was thinking :

test susp 100 mg ED
deca 400 mg / week
tamox citr ED
maybe 12,5 mcg T3 per day??????????? (to aid in protein synthesis)

and I have a couple of questions :

1. Is the susp fat acting enough that I don't need d bol to kickstart the cycle?

2. When will the deca kick in and would you bump it to 600 mg or is there no need?

3. Is the susp worth it with the ED shots or would I get the same results by just using 750 mg of test e per week? I mean are the benefits (site injections, more free testosterone, fast acting...) worth the trouble with the ED injecitons?

if your using susp i would inject every 12 hour's you don't need d/boll

i would just leave the deca at 400mg ew i would say the deca would kick in week4-5

ther is more free test with susp 100mg mean's you will get 100mg out of everyshot because you don't have to take away the weight of the ester
if you can hake 2 time's a day injection's go for it

**bor** · 07-03-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

ther is more free test with susp 100mg mean's you will get 100mg out of everyshot because you don't have to take away the weight of the ester
if you can hake 2 time's a day injection's go for it

Yeah I know, but is that the only benefit?

If it is, I could just take 1000 mg of test e once a week insted of the 700 mg per week of sust?

**Nicky B** · 07-03-2005, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by bor

Yeah I know, but is that the only benefit?

If it is, I could just take 1000 mg of test e once a week insted of the 700 mg per week of sust?

Another benefit of suspension is it can be run for 6weeks and get good results. And if you are a drug tested athlete it is out of your system in less then 4days. If you run 1000mg of test e but it will be around 900mg because of the ester. I say run something like test e for a bulker.

**bor** · 07-03-2005, 09:42 AM

How about the spot injections? Do the really work with this compound?

**dtr98** · 07-03-2005, 03:38 PM

hey bro, going to do a cycle like that for next one.
going sust 125mg ed
deca 400mg split 2x wk
adding dbol at wk 6 for the classic dbol/deca stack
no need to jump start since you have prop in sust and you're going ed eith it.
lmk how it goes for you.

Originally Posted by bor

OK so I'll be doing a "semi" lean bulker (meaning I'll try not to get too fat) starting september.

I was thinking :

test susp 100 mg ED
deca 400 mg / week
tamox citr ED
maybe 12,5 mcg T3 per day??????????? (to aid in protein synthesis)

and I have a couple of questions :

1. Is the susp fat acting enough that I don't need d bol to kickstart the cycle?

2. When will the deca kick in and would you bump it to 600 mg or is there no need?

3. Is the susp worth it with the ED shots or would I get the same results by just using 750 mg of test e per week? I mean are the benefits (site injections, more free testosterone, fast acting...) worth the trouble with the ED injecitons?

**stocky121** · 07-03-2005, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by dtr98

hey bro, going to do a cycle like that for next one.
going sust 125mg ed
deca 400mg split 2x wk
adding dbol at wk 6 for the classic dbol/deca stack
no need to jump start since you have prop in sust and you're going ed eith it.
lmk how it goes for you.

sorry bro but i think he's talking about suspension

**bor** · 07-04-2005, 04:43 AM

Yep I'll be doing susP (ension) not susT (anon)

**dirtyvegas** · 07-04-2005, 05:16 AM

i got one thing to say....OuCh..!!!

j/k goodluck bro

~DV~

**dtr98** · 07-04-2005, 09:16 AM

my mistake, sorry

**bor** · 07-04-2005, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by dtr98

my mistake, sorry

Thats cool brah don't mention it

**bor** · 07-04-2005, 10:23 AM

So which would you do?

1. test susp 100 mgED / deca 400 mg per week

2. test e 750 mg (or 1000mg

) per week / deca 400 mg per week

**The Baron** · 07-04-2005, 11:09 AM

I would use E or C but maybe kickstart with suspension, 100mg/ED week 1 and tapering down to 75 and then to 50 weeks 2 and 3, maybe continuing at 50 through week 4. Then after the last shot of deca and test, run the suspension for 4 weeks, tapering UP this time to 100mg/ED as the long estered test leaves your system. 3 days after your last suspension shot, you should be well depleted and ready for pct, so you will spend very little time in a depleted condition.

You can also get a similar effect to this little end-play thing by using hcg , 500iu/E3D, last hcg shot two weeks after your last test shot, pct a week after your last hcg shot. More is not better... you don't want to desensitize your nuts to the LH that pct restores. I like the hcg because I hate shooting twice a day. HCG works fine E3D.