tren

**dragon69** · 07-07-2005, 10:24 PM

I'm hearing alot in these posts about how tren is so harsh......other than the shutdown, what's so harsh about it particularly?

**MBaraso** · 07-07-2005, 10:26 PM

The sides not to mention inexperienced steriod users aren't gonna like the ed injects.

**dragon69** · 07-07-2005, 10:56 PM

elaborate please.....I've seen the profile before, but judging by that I don't see the big deal. Can you tell me more?

**dragon69** · 07-08-2005, 01:01 AM

bump

**dragon69** · 07-08-2005, 09:53 AM

maybe it's the psychological sides that some people experience that makes people say it's harsh then?
btw does this occur MOST of the time?

**stocky121** · 07-08-2005, 09:58 AM

with tren your going to get increased aggresion a lot more than from test

night and day sweat's is another side

acne

you grow horn's

only joking about this one bro

you talking about shut down i hope your going to run test with that tren ??

**dragon69** · 07-08-2005, 10:04 AM

of course! prop of course. maybe some winstrol too
OK agression is one thing, but some say it makes you mean and intolerable.

**stocky121** · 07-08-2005, 10:12 AM

only if you cannot control it bro it's you only get more aggresive

but if your mean and intorable that mean's you carn't handdle the tren

**hexadec** · 07-08-2005, 11:16 AM

I thought the sides were totally manageable... EXCEPT FOR THE SWEATS. My girlfriend hated how I was always sweating. At work I was drenched before 10am. ED injects don't bother some... if so you could go with tren enanthate . I like it alot!

**jerseyboy** · 07-08-2005, 11:34 AM

It used to make me real irritable but I was stressed out to begin with. Now I'm running 150mg a day and no probs. I'm more relaxed these days. It still makes me sweat a lot though. Actually clen is worse for me than tren when it comes to irritability.

**jerseyboy** · 07-08-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

how are you going to stop hair loss and kidney damage.

now dont get me wrong im a tren freek and have it in ever cycle. but the sides will come and you can not stop them

I've never had any hair loss or kidney problems knock on wood. Even at 150mg I have no lower back pain and clear urine. I take milk thistle and saw palmetto every day and drink lots of cranberry juice. The GH has actually made my hair grow faster.

**cannibal** · 07-08-2005, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by stocky121

with tren your going to get increased aggresion a lot more than from test

night and day sweat's is another side

I currently added in some tren with my test cycle and stocky121 is right, I have experienced the "sweats" he refers of and also an increase in aggresion. I would not say its to the point where I can't control it though, but its kinda like this (you see some ****er doing something stupid or being an ass to someone and you just wanna go slap the little ****er or sometimes get the urge to wanna just go up and grab them by the neck depending on how stupid there being) but as so many before have stated its controllable but the urge is definately there tempting you to confront!

**Dark Bird** · 07-08-2005, 03:54 PM

Most say its harsh on the kidneys but i dunno. These seemed to be based on what ifs and no actuall experiences. Ive actually had no probs with kidneys and have run mutiple cycles with it. Hairloss-yes. Sweating maybey but not to the point where im uncomfortbale. I think the first cycle i ran with it there where night sweats, but oddly after that first cycle i had no probs with sweating. To combat shutdown I just used nolva throughout and I was fine.

**Moosepellet** · 07-08-2005, 04:10 PM

night sweats, acne, insomia, just are some of the sides that I experienced. Just came off, wish that I wouldn't have

**profbiv** · 07-08-2005, 04:13 PM

Agreed you will have sides, for me rage is real currently running 50ED so far so good.

But tren= beastmaker!!!

**mickdiesel** · 07-08-2005, 04:21 PM

so youre saying you can combat shutdown with nolva? meaning you wouldnt have to run test with it?

**Dark Bird** · 07-08-2005, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by caban

so youre saying you can combat shutdown with nolva? meaning you wouldnt have to run test with it?

I always run test with tren , forgot to mention that. Yes I think with test and nolva you wont have any problems as far as shutdown.

**Moosepellet** · 07-08-2005, 04:27 PM

Ran my tren at 100mg/ED for 13wks, along with 750mg Test E, and 600mg EQ.

**Moosepellet** · 07-08-2005, 04:33 PM

Forgot to mention to take milk thistle and cranberry extract. Got my blood results back and the only problem was that my liver enzymes were a little off. Nothing to worry though, my doctor said it will go away with time off. Can't wait until next year, going to try tren enanthate

**dragon69** · 07-08-2005, 11:11 PM

thanks guys for the replies. One more thought on the topic now that a have gotten the answer, when people say 'don't use tren your first time it's too harsh' it makes me wonder 'what is it that's possibly going to happen or change between now and a 2nd or 3rd cycle?'
It seems to make no sense. Not like my body is going to morph into something that can handle tren any better than now.
So is it just experience de****g with juice then that would change before I use a strong steroid like tren?

**MarkinHouston** · 07-08-2005, 11:26 PM

Partially that, but also making sure your body can handle the stuff that puts less stress on your organs first....kinda like walking before you run....