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    cantqwit is offline Associate Member
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    im back and i have questions!

    hello. a little history. 6'1'' 225 10%bf. 4 cycles in the past. always time on=time off.1) test , 2)test dbol , 3)test winny tabs, 4)winny tabs only. 2 cycles alone for 4 weeks 50mg/d. i know that was stupid. well first of all its been 1.5 years since my last cycle of anything . 595 days. oh what a f-in ride its been. but im back. basicly, i was put on remeron for anxiety for 3 mos back in november. my liver values AST/ALT shot waay up! they were like 120 and 100. before i took remeron everything was normal. in fact 2 mos after my last test cycle my alt/ast wasnt even elevated at all. and once DURING a winny tab cycle they werent up at all either,but my lipids were bad. so anyway my doc gets tunnel vision and assumes its a serious problem from the 4 cycles i did IN THE PAST. not thinking it could have been the remeron causing it. after 3 mos of being on remeron i did some research and found out remeron can elevate them alone. i discovered this myself.so i went back to doc told him im stoping it and i have had them tested 3 different times since i stopped. now they are 33 and 30. however i had a ct scan done and it revealed "mildly fatty liver", which from what io understand is common and reversable. was it from the remeron? was it from the juice or oral winny i used a few times 2 years ago? ive been to 2 more gi/liver specialists and they wont give me an explanation. its like they are covering up for my doc who put me on remeron and sent me to a specialist in the first place! whoknows!funny huh? i even saw one liver specialist who still took the steroid route knowing i was on remeron. he lectured me on the dangers of them. so anyway i still have my anxiety problem a bit. so im about to start a low dose "mild" test e cycle. my plan is this. test e 250-500mg/week for 8 weeks. is it safe to take liv-52 during cycle? i know your all saying too low, but i have my personal theory on why mild -low dose shorter is better. after running same high dose for 10 weeks in the past, i noticed my body stalled or platued after 5 weeks. i basically gained nothing at any cylce after weeks 5-6 or so. i will be tapering and going low- mod dose.i also want to take chinese herbs called "calm spirit". for anxiety. i do have xanax on hand .5 mg are those safe as well? i only take those when i absolutley have to. about 5 x a month. i really dont trust dr's at all anymore you can see why. you all can help me. i also suffer from exterme muscle dysmorphia which is what leads me back to the forum. my main concern is that the liv 52 will help keep my liver ok during and after. im willing to take every safe step to get through what i call the final cycle of my life where i would like to get 15 pounds and keep 10 or so at the least. and my pct is going to be over the counter because clomid messes me up extremely. hcg maybe an option but i have heard good stuff about "off cycle" and 6 oxo. any help or input at all is appreciated. please no flames, i appreciate it.

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    Alpha-Male is offline Senior Member
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    background not really necessary IMO, but anyway, yeah, take some Liv-52, hell, any liver protectant should be good...i used Milk Thistle while taking methotrexate and i just had a blood test---all clear...you can also try RLA and/or SAMe, all be proven to protect against/heal liver damage...search the threads cuz i posted some studies on those two awhile back...hope this helps...peace

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    cantqwit is offline Associate Member
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    bump

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    pumps and a bump

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    does anyone have anything else? thanks!

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