berries are bye bye

**proph** · 07-10-2005, 09:54 PM

ok guys, i know you've seen this topic a thousand times, but please have the patients to help a brotha out..I been off of gear for about year..last cycle was 600mg week of test enth. qv...I got off could turkey..no taper of pct..really dumb I know..I thought 6-oxo would do the trick..boy was I wrong.. my nuts shrunk as expected..but never came back..now a year later they are still like a five year old..im all twig and no berries..can anything be done at this point..I still have a high sex drive..and cum like a champ..it just makes me feel self conscious... please help...

**kloter1** · 07-10-2005, 09:57 PM

i dont think there is anything that will bring back nut size. just chalk that up to poor planning. all twig and no berries.

**hellapimpin** · 07-11-2005, 12:20 AM

lol..that must be a blow to the heart...go to a doc..maybe use some trib...are you sure your balls werent small to begin with??

**RYNO** · 07-11-2005, 12:28 AM

HCG , trib, nolva/clomid might help you with the atrophy, but if a year has gone bye, something might be wrong.

**TheNatural3456** · 07-11-2005, 12:30 AM

the smaller the potatoes the bigger the steak...

**robkesl** · 07-11-2005, 12:36 AM

hcg , is used for treatment of undescended testicles, it will stimulate natural production, maybe thats all you need. a kick start, even if their working fine, maybe their not back to full potential, you might beable to bring them back up.( or down i should say)

**Maetenloch** · 07-11-2005, 07:13 AM

Sounds like it's time to see an endocrinologist and have some testing done. More than likely they'll put you on a course of HCG to bring your testicle size back up.

**Natural1** · 07-11-2005, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by TheNatural3456

the smaller the potatoes the bigger the steak...

HA HA, now that sh1ts funny.

**Schwarz** · 07-11-2005, 07:59 AM

I think it's about time you went to see the doc. What have you got to loose?? after all they can't get any smaller.....

And a lesson to everyone that proper research, planning and execution of a cycle is really important.

S

**Ntpadude** · 07-11-2005, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by RYNO

HCG, trib, nolva/clomid might help you with the atrophy, but if a year has gone bye, something might be wrong.

You can do clomid at any time, its never too late although there is some new evidence that suggest tribulus is the worst thing you can do so I would avoid tribulus entirely unless you are doing it for limited periods no more then 7 to 10 days at a time.

Nolva out of the blue a year later is a worthless idea.

**OneMoreSet** · 07-11-2005, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

You can do clomid at any time, its never too late although there is some new evidence that suggest tribulus is the worst thing you can do so I would avoid tribulus entirely unless you are doing it for limited periods no more then 7 to 10 days at a time.

Nolva out of the blue a year later is a worthless idea.

where is this evidence? I havn't heard tribulus is bad yet? I would like more info so I can inform some of my friends who take it on a regular basis

OMS

**Ntpadude** · 07-11-2005, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by OneMoreSet

where is this evidence? I havn't heard tribulus is bad yet? I would like more info so I can inform some of my friends who take it on a regular basis

OMS

Seems when looking at blood tests... test levels go up for a few days but then your estrogen comes up and starts inhibiting testosterone production so its very typical to find yourself in about 10 to 15 days to have testosterone levels that are the same as before you started tribulus or even lower but to have now very very elevated estrogen levels. Tribulus is also known to boost the heck out of estrogen production in both men and women and using tribulus over 10 days will inhibit your testosterone production while continuing to boost estrogen levels. Not very good at all if you are gyno prone. In fact some studies are showing gyno occurs more often in steroid users using tribulus then steroid users that never use tribulus.

**SwoleCat** · 07-11-2005, 09:12 AM

Crazy info.

Do you have the location for where you read this? Is it a medical journal, newspaper article, etc.? Not that I don't believe you, because I do believe you, I just want to see where this came from then have a deeper look into the matter.

Thanks,
~SC~

**cantqwit** · 07-11-2005, 04:11 PM

i didnt know you did a test e cycle a year ago? boy am i glad you posted this, i am anti clomid/nolva myself and will be using over the counter pct. good thing my boys are TOO big already! i could use some shrinkage!

**proph** · 07-20-2005, 04:57 PM

you could use some shrinkage huh...lol whats up man hope all is well...

**needbigguns** · 07-20-2005, 05:38 PM

i naturaly have small balls...but a big beef ofcourse lol, im glad iv got small balls anyway, not like you need them, they only get in the way, plus its just a bigger target to get hurt or kicked if you've got king kong balls, when im cycling my teste's are non existance ! Dosent bother me a bit

**Smiley619** · 07-20-2005, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by needbigguns

i naturaly have small balls...but a big beef ofcourse lol, im glad iv got small balls anyway, not like you need them, they only get in the way, plus its just a bigger target to get hurt or kicked if you've got king kong balls, when im cycling my teste's are non existance ! Dosent bother me a bit

they only get in the way when they are pounding my gf's chin every night...big balls are a plus you are missin out!

**LegendKiller85** · 07-20-2005, 08:26 PM

I did the same thing about 6 months ago no pct my parents threw my omifin away(bastards) still trying to find a way to get my nuts back.Iam leaving the juice alone for a while.