First cycle questions

**puremusc00** · 07-10-2005, 06:35 PM

hi! I am new to this forum and have read a lot of the feedback and have a question on what you guys would recommend as a first cycle. I am 23...80Kg...6'1'' and want to gain some mass. This is what I was thinking...test. E, deca , and clomid as pct. but I am open to other suggestion. Any tips would be appreciated. thanks

**hosam4ever** · 07-10-2005, 06:46 PM

do 25o mg test e twice aweek & deca @ 4oo mg twice a week & u can mix both of them n the same syringe its a very good stack 4 a bigginer & u gonna get a lot of mass on it

**ItalianMuscle27** · 07-10-2005, 06:47 PM

Your honetly to young my friend. Your body is still producing all that great natural testosterone . I wouldnt mess with the stuff right now!

**tycin** · 07-10-2005, 06:54 PM

i'd do this:
wks1-10 test e 500mg/week
wks1-10 nolva 10mg/ed
pct 14 days after last shot

if u wanna add in deca as well go with 400mg/week from weeks 1-8/9... if u do go with deca its always a good idea to add in 200mg/day of b6 while on.

**hellapimpin** · 07-10-2005, 07:04 PM

i agree with this
run test for 13 weeks
and run deca for 12 weeks

Originally Posted by hosam4ever

do 25o mg test e twice aweek & deca @ 4oo mg twice a week & u can mix both of them n the same syringe its a very good stack 4 a bigginer & u gonna get a lot of mass on it

**Irishguy22** · 07-10-2005, 07:08 PM

Test E 500mg/wk and deca 400mg/wk worked great for me

**biggdogg555** · 07-10-2005, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Irishguy22

Test E 500mg/wk and deca 400mg/wk worked great for me

What did you take for pct? What doses?

**keylock** · 07-10-2005, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Irishguy22

Test E 500mg/wk and deca 400mg/wk worked great for me

Id say first time you dont even need deca .

**Irishguy22** · 07-10-2005, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by biggdogg555

What did you take for pct? What doses?

pct wk 1,2 100mg ed
wks- 3-6 50mg ed

**Irishguy22** · 07-10-2005, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by keylock

Id say first time you dont even need deca.

Thats true that was not my frist cycle i ran my first cycle with just test prop

**biggdogg555** · 07-10-2005, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Irishguy22

Thats true that was not my frist cycle i ran my first cycle with just test prop

I plan on just doing one cycle that would give me good gains...i have reached a plateau and just want to get over that.

**Irishguy22** · 07-10-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by biggdogg555

I plan on just doing one cycle that would give me good gains...i have reached a plateau and just want to get over that.

What are yo looking for a far a gains go? there are many different compunds that will give various results

**hellapimpin** · 07-10-2005, 08:10 PM

many have said they were only going to do one cycle...halfway through my first cycle i was already thinking about my next

**Irishguy22** · 07-10-2005, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by hellapimpin

many have said they were only going to do one cycle...halfway through my first cycle i was already thinking about my next

I agree with hella your not gonna wanna stop

**puremusc00** · 07-10-2005, 08:16 PM

Ok this is what I am thinking:

Deca - 200/week X 8weeks
Test E- 500/week X 9 weeks
Vit. B-6 - 200 QD X 9 weeks

Clomid 3 weeks POST deca : 100mg for day 1-7 and 50mg thereafter for 14 days

comments?

**hellapimpin** · 07-10-2005, 08:28 PM

you'll be much happier to do atleast 11 weeks of test e and deca for 10 weeks. and deca 300mg a week atleast. if your going to use those receptors and its your first cycle, do a good one

**keylock** · 07-10-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by puremusc00

Ok this is what I am thinking:

Deca - 200/week X 8weeks
Test E- 500/week X 9 weeks
Vit. B-6 - 200 QD X 9 weeks

Clomid 3 weeks POST deca : 100mg for day 1-7 and 50mg thereafter for 14 days

comments?

Id say if your going to do the deca then do 400mg a week or dont do it at all.

**thejuiceisloose** · 07-10-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by keylock

Id say if your going to do the deca then do 400mg a week or dont do it at all.

I agree. I did 600mg of Test E and 400mg of Deca . Good results but don't really like Deca too much.

~theJuice~

**puremusc00** · 07-11-2005, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

I agree. I did 600mg of Test E and 400mg of Deca . Good results but don't really like Deca too much.

~theJuice~

why didn't you like the deca?

**hellapimpin** · 07-11-2005, 02:46 AM

i dont like either..shuts ya down quiet a bit.. it stays in system for along time..but its great for joints"!

**puremusc00** · 07-11-2005, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by hellapimpin

i dont like either..shuts ya down quiet a bit.. it stays in system for along time..but its great for joints"!

What could be used in place of deca for a mass cycle with test e? Thanks!

**thejuiceisloose** · 07-11-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by hellapimpin

i dont like either..shuts ya down quiet a bit.. it stays in system for along time..but its great for joints"!

That's exactly how I feel about Deca . I went with EQ now, see what goes on there.

~theJuice~

**hellapimpin** · 07-11-2005, 02:07 PM

eq is a good alternative...

**puremusc00** · 07-17-2005, 04:43 AM

what is the advantage of Eq over deca ?

**stocky121** · 07-17-2005, 04:46 AM

more hunger increased vascularity learner gain's less water retention

but you will get more gain's off deca help's with your joint's increased protein synthesis.

but i would just run test for your first cycle maybe kickstart with d-boll

**biggdogg555** · 07-17-2005, 04:51 AM

What is a good dose of Eq. to start your first cycle with. Also want to take Test E 500 per week for 10 weeks and clomid as pct.

**stocky121** · 07-17-2005, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by biggdogg555

What is a good dose of Eq. to start your first cycle with. Also want to take Test E 500 per week for 10 weeks and clomid as pct.

eq need's to be run a minimum of 12 week's at a minimum of 400mg each week. so you would wan't to run the test 13 week's

but if this is your first cycle just run the test at 500mg ew for 10 week's