Thread: AS for daddy?
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07-14-2005, 01:11 PM #1
AS for daddy?
I was wondering if it would be ok to give my dad some type of AS to help him with his training. He would like to gain some muscle and lose his excess fat. He is 44 and about 250. What would you suggest?
Last edited by lochick87; 07-14-2005 at 01:56 PM.
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07-14-2005, 01:20 PM #2
if anything low dose test
but could he not go to the doc and get HRT
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07-14-2005, 01:21 PM #3
roid's wont make you lose gyno. Letro may reduce it but surgery is the only real way to get rid of gyno.
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07-14-2005, 01:48 PM #4
are you sure it's gyno or just excess fat on his upper body?
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07-14-2005, 01:56 PM #5
might be excess fat. it probably is.
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07-14-2005, 02:07 PM #6Originally Posted by lochick87
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07-14-2005, 02:11 PM #7
I really don't know his body fat, more than 18% i would guess. his height? hmmm around 5'10
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07-14-2005, 02:15 PM #8
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07-14-2005, 02:16 PM #9Originally Posted by Dark Bird
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07-14-2005, 02:16 PM #10Originally Posted by Dark Bird
nolva dose not decrease water retention but will stop gyno
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07-14-2005, 02:17 PM #11Originally Posted by lochick87
test e only need's to be shot every 3.5 day's
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07-14-2005, 02:20 PM #12
o ok. thanks for the help. how much ?
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07-14-2005, 02:26 PM #13Originally Posted by stocky121
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07-14-2005, 02:28 PM #14Originally Posted by lochick87
500mg MAX
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07-14-2005, 02:29 PM #15Originally Posted by Dark Bird
yes but nolva dose not get rid of estrogen it just stop's it binding to the receptor
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07-14-2005, 02:30 PM #16Originally Posted by stocky121
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07-14-2005, 02:30 PM #17Originally Posted by Dark Bird
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07-14-2005, 02:31 PM #18Banned
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There is no need for him to take Nolva. At his age, his body is producing less testosterone . I am sure at that weight and height at 245 he is more than 18% body fat if he hasn't been training. The chest, I am sure, is body fat and not gyno.
As for which AS, he would benefit from HRT doses of test and gh. However, he should try giving early morning cardio on an empty stomach a try. If he is not working out regularly, I do not like the idea of HRT because his BP can go up as well as other issues us old guys have to worry about such as lipid profiles, etc. However, if he gets on a steady routine of cardio and moderate lifting to start, then he would make a good candidate for HRT and test usage provided he has no high PSA count or prostate cancer history.
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07-14-2005, 02:34 PM #19Originally Posted by toolman
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07-14-2005, 02:34 PM #20
anyway why cant your dad get his own gear and do his own research, i sure wouldnt fix my dad up with some roids, what if he goes nuts when you turn up with some roids for him and what will your ma say if she finds out.
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07-14-2005, 02:36 PM #21Originally Posted by beuleux
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07-14-2005, 02:36 PM #22Originally Posted by stocky121
The antiestrogen Nolvadex works against this by blocking the es-trogen receptors of the effected body tissue, thereby inhibiting a bonding of estrogens and receptor.
Athletes who have a tendency to retain water and who have a mammary dysfunction should take Nolvadex as a prevention during every steroid intake.
Since Nolvadex is very affective in most cases it is no wonder that several athletes can take Anadrol 50 and Dianabol until the day of a competition, and in combination with a diuretic still appear totally ripped in the. limelight. Those who already have a low body fat content will achieve a visibly improved muscle hardness with Nolvadex.
......(and i quote steroid.com itself)
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07-14-2005, 02:40 PM #23Originally Posted by toolman
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07-14-2005, 02:40 PM #24
old bro old i thought the same untill i was told diffrent by a person who know's his shit
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07-14-2005, 02:46 PM #25Originally Posted by stocky121
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07-14-2005, 02:48 PM #26Originally Posted by Dark Bird
it's cool bro it's good to debate as long as it dosen't get of control i'am cool with it
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07-14-2005, 02:53 PM #27Originally Posted by stocky121
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07-14-2005, 02:58 PM #28Originally Posted by Dark Bird
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07-14-2005, 03:00 PM #29Originally Posted by lochick87
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07-14-2005, 03:04 PM #30Originally Posted by beuleux
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07-14-2005, 03:25 PM #31Originally Posted by Dark Bird
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07-14-2005, 03:29 PM #32Originally Posted by Dark Bird
You're deffinitely like 9 bro
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07-14-2005, 06:00 PM #33Originally Posted by Angel of death
Nah... Im just a bit immature sometimes. That was mean!!
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07-14-2005, 07:59 PM #34Banned
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Originally Posted by Dark Bird
Further, at his age his body is still producing gh, just in lower quantities. I am 40 bro and have been in the game for awhile and do my blood tests regularaly.Last edited by toolman; 07-14-2005 at 08:01 PM.
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07-14-2005, 08:14 PM #35
it might not be a bad idea...however, i think he should talk it over with his doc. that way he can get controlled, medically supervised HRT.
think of it this way...we would never just tell someone to take a certain cycle just on our words alone -- we suggest he/she learns what he's doing and take some personal responsibility for it. if your dad isn't going to do that, then the option would be to have him speak to a Dr who is willing to administer (or at least consider) HRT for him -- that way he's taken care of.
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07-14-2005, 09:05 PM #36
if he is over weight forget the gear and get him on cardio and limited caloric intake!
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07-14-2005, 09:19 PM #37Writer
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Originally Posted by Dark Bird
But then again, I know who the author of the new profiles is also (me!), and he's not a doctor or scientist either.....
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07-14-2005, 10:09 PM #38Member
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Originally Posted by mark956101957
Additionally, at 44 years old it will be healthy for him to take some test as his is to low for a healthy life style anyways. Guys his age should be using test regularly (albeit through a doc, not through a son hooking them up).
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07-14-2005, 10:15 PM #39Originally Posted by toolman
Ok first off, this is my opinion im giving her just as, as confident as you may seem, you are only giveing an opinion. Im not a doctor, thats why i pasted info that was written by proffesionals. If you think its outdated look on other boards its the same there (the pasted info didnt apply to you anyway). Secondly yes I think it would be best for him to see a doctor- a doctor will know more than these boards,most of the time. Most of the time, the only thing a doctor may prescribe nolva for is breast cancer prevention or treatment. But do you use nolva and such medications to treat breast cancer? Doesnt nolva work to stimulate the hypothalamus thereby regenerateing natural testosterone production in the body? But nolva is used to stimulate nat test production after long cycles- periods when nat test levels are low and estrogen is high. The gh statement yes i was overexaggerating, I know that gh levels are depleted but not completely gone in old age. However, you have no point in this, my point was that gh is very effective and yes it is prescribed by doctors to older males for muscle regeneration/growth/ect. Your picking things out and focusing on me. What you should be more worried about is helping lochick87 out. In my humble opinion she would be better off listening to me than you. Finally, I dont believe its nessisary for you to go around touting your age when you have no idea how old I am. Age is only important to a degree as well-For example (this is only an example please dont take it litterally), a fourty year old construction worker might not compare to a 24 year old med school student.
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07-14-2005, 10:16 PM #40Originally Posted by hooker
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