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    onthecumup is offline Associate Member
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    Question begginers cycle..... have it put together, any input?

    ok, im new to this and getting ready to start my very first cycle, im very excited and aanxious. i was wondering if anyone could help with their input.
    im starting with 300 mg deca per week and starting winny at week 5, its a ten week cycle and post cycle includes HCG and Clomid. just any input would be appreciated thanx

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    If your going to run deca than you need to run test always run at least 100mgs more test a week than deca to counter sides , also why start the winnie a week 5 start it a the beginning with the deca but make sure you get some test, test, test. you need test in that cycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Bro, dont do deca alone.

    All you need for results are test. If you want to use winny you should use it eod/ed the day you quit the test.

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    first off, why do i need test and second, will i crash hard off test or will i kepp gains.....thanx for the input so far

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    you have not read a thing. you need test, deca alone is a pain.... no sex drive, slow, etc... besides, if your gonna use one, test is best bro... read up!!

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    yes u do need test. u will keep a majority of the gains as long as u have clomid for pct.

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    for a 1st cycle id recommend test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks. dont use more than one compound right off the bat until you know how youll react with one.

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    also, what kind of test is best and, is starting that for 1st cycle good??? my stats are 6 ft and 195 pounds, body fat 12% and fairly vascular... any input on what kind of gains im lookin at ( good high protein diet and very intense routine)..?????

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    use test enthanate. assuming your diet is good you could put on 15-20lbs.

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    everything ive read on deca has been no harsh sides??? is this not true???

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    read this bro:
    Newbies this is for you
    Last edited by kloter1; 07-19-2005 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthecumup
    everything ive read on deca has been no harsh sides??? is this not true???
    do you understand what steroids do to your body? For starters they shut down your natural testosterone production so you should always take test in your cycles so you will have test in your body. Taking deca alone will shut you down hard and you will have no test in your body within a couple weeks. No test is a very bad thing, for one it affects your libido and you will most likely encounter the dreaded "deca dick", which means you wont be able to get it up. Test also affects your mood, energy, sense of well being, etc. Deca typically isnt harsh as long as there is some test being stacked with it.

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    well thats great i have my gear on the way and theres no test coming, will i need hcg and clomid if i do test and deca or will i just need clomid, also if i go with test and deca should i save my winny?

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    Go for test only, use winny after the test is over.

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    I plan on doing the same cycle soon with Test E at 500mg a week for 13weeks and Deca 300mg a week for 12 weeks followed by pct... Let me know how everything goes cuz i want to hear some info on things. But ya i would also run Test with the Deca as Im going to do

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    again, the pct, should i just run the clomid or the clomid plus hcg

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    how do you pm a moderator on here as well?

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    You dont need hcg for that cyclel, but I would run it anyway.

    Dosage and when to administer you can get answers for at the PCT forum.

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    thanx guys, any additional info would be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by kloter1
    for a 1st cycle id recommend test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks. dont use more than one compound right off the bat until you know how youll react with one.
    This is good advice bro.

    Deca alone does not work very well for most people. Educate yourself as much as possible before jumping into a cycle. I know it is tempting to start ASAP but there are a lot of experienced people on this board who will advise against a deca without test cycle. Learn from them and your results will be greatly improved.

    Learn as much as you can about diet, training, Post Cycle Therapy , proper injection procedures etc.

    Have fun and be safe ~eGGz~

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