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07-19-2005, 12:43 PM #1Associate Member
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begginers cycle..... have it put together, any input?
ok, im new to this and getting ready to start my very first cycle, im very excited and aanxious. i was wondering if anyone could help with their input.
im starting with 300 mg deca per week and starting winny at week 5, its a ten week cycle and post cycle includes HCG and Clomid. just any input would be appreciated thanx
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07-19-2005, 12:48 PM #2Associate Member
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If your going to run deca than you need to run test always run at least 100mgs more test a week than deca to counter sides , also why start the winnie a week 5 start it a the beginning with the deca but make sure you get some test, test, test. you need test in that cycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-19-2005, 12:48 PM #3Junior Member
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Bro, dont do deca alone.
All you need for results are test. If you want to use winny you should use it eod/ed the day you quit the test.
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07-19-2005, 12:58 PM #4Associate Member
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first off, why do i need test and second, will i crash hard off test or will i kepp gains.....thanx for the input so far
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07-19-2005, 01:00 PM #5
you have not read a thing. you need test, deca alone is a pain.... no sex drive, slow, etc... besides, if your gonna use one, test is best bro... read up!!
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07-19-2005, 01:00 PM #6
yes u do need test. u will keep a majority of the gains as long as u have clomid for pct.
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07-19-2005, 01:01 PM #7
for a 1st cycle id recommend test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks. dont use more than one compound right off the bat until you know how youll react with one.
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07-19-2005, 01:01 PM #8Associate Member
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also, what kind of test is best and, is starting that for 1st cycle good??? my stats are 6 ft and 195 pounds, body fat 12% and fairly vascular... any input on what kind of gains im lookin at ( good high protein diet and very intense routine)..?????
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07-19-2005, 01:05 PM #9
use test enthanate. assuming your diet is good you could put on 15-20lbs.
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07-19-2005, 01:05 PM #10Associate Member
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everything ive read on deca has been no harsh sides??? is this not true???
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07-19-2005, 01:08 PM #11
read this bro:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=beginnerLast edited by kloter1; 07-19-2005 at 01:12 PM.
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07-19-2005, 01:18 PM #12Originally Posted by onthecumup
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07-19-2005, 01:27 PM #13Associate Member
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07-19-2005, 01:32 PM #14Junior Member
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Go for test only, use winny after the test is over.
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07-19-2005, 01:35 PM #15
I plan on doing the same cycle soon with Test E at 500mg a week for 13weeks and Deca 300mg a week for 12 weeks followed by pct... Let me know how everything goes cuz i want to hear some info on things. But ya i would also run Test with the Deca as Im going to do
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07-19-2005, 01:42 PM #16Associate Member
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again, the pct, should i just run the clomid or the clomid plus hcg
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07-19-2005, 01:43 PM #17Associate Member
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how do you pm a moderator on here as well?
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07-19-2005, 01:58 PM #18Junior Member
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You dont need hcg for that cyclel, but I would run it anyway.
Dosage and when to administer you can get answers for at the PCT forum.
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07-19-2005, 02:07 PM #19Associate Member
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thanx guys, any additional info would be awesome
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07-19-2005, 08:05 PM #20Originally Posted by kloter1
Deca alone does not work very well for most people. Educate yourself as much as possible before jumping into a cycle. I know it is tempting to start ASAP but there are a lot of experienced people on this board who will advise against a deca without test cycle. Learn from them and your results will be greatly improved.
Learn as much as you can about diet, training, Post Cycle Therapy , proper injection procedures etc.
Have fun and be safe ~eGGz~
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