heavy on liver

**hosam4ever** · 07-20-2005, 07:07 PM

hi bros 1 of my friends insists on that test is heavy on liver but i say no so what is ur openion

**smokethedays** · 07-20-2005, 07:11 PM

yes it is @ high doses thouhg, i'd say over 600 mg/week but it also highly depends on ur liver condition pre-cycle. that's y u should do frequent blood tests. every 2-3 weeks.

**SwoleCat** · 07-20-2005, 07:11 PM

My opinion is that your buddy doesn't know too much valid info.

Being that test is a natural body constituent, barring any ridiculous dosages (multiple grams per week), I see no reason why it would be "heavy" on the liver. Especially when you consider HRT and that business, and the fact that millions of people are on HRT (test) on all types of dosages.

~SC~

**smokethedays** · 07-20-2005, 07:12 PM

i just got screwed up doing 800 mg/week Test E with 500 mg/week Deca .
my kidneys are near shutting down and my liver enzymes are doubled.

**SwoleCat** · 07-20-2005, 07:13 PM

You were also on winny smoke. As well, you were going to check and find out the reason for the kidney reading/info you received, remember? I don't see your cycle being the reason your kidneys are functioning like an "old person" as was stated in the Lounge.

~SC~

**smokethedays** · 07-20-2005, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

You were also on winny smoke. As well, you were going to check and find out the reason for the kidney reading/info you received, remember? I don't see your cycle being the reason your kidneys are functioning like an "old person" as was stated in the Lounge.

~SC~

i wasn't on winny when i did the blood test, i actually started winny that night.
i went to get another blood test today (10 days only interval) just to say if there any change. i'll keep u updated Swole

**SwoleCat** · 07-20-2005, 07:17 PM

Ahhh, I see. I thought I read you were on winny at the time as well.

Liver values being doubled on your cycle is strange, but being that your kidneys are functioning crazy too, who knows what the true issue is.

Be well!

~SC~

**smokethedays** · 07-20-2005, 07:20 PM

thanx SC, later

**hosam4ever** · 07-20-2005, 07:26 PM

all i know is that while ur on gear ur liver enzimes increase & after finishing the gear it decreases again dats why we should do our test either b4 begining the gear or after it by 1 or 2 monthes if am wrong some 1 correct me plz

**jinos** · 07-20-2005, 07:43 PM

That goes for any AS. But test is way better than orals(drol,dbol ,halo,etc) on your liver. I would rather do injections only than that. You need to do more research on your knowledge of AS. Especially your friend.

**hosam4ever** · 07-20-2005, 07:47 PM

dats mean that am right i know that orals r heavy on liver

**cantqwit** · 07-20-2005, 10:34 PM

lots of things can be taxing to the liver. hell, herbs and antidepressants too. remeron, an antidepressant doubled my AST and tripled my ALT alone! i had blood drawn when i was on winny tabs for weeks and they were in normal range. peoples livers are as different as their fingerprints are. just be sure to include milk thislte and or liv-52 tabs during cycle and get those blood tests!