i train brazilian jiu jitsu and was just wondering whats a good cycle to start with.i need something that cuts and doesnt hurt my cardio.my weight is 230 and height is 5'8".i eat good and do alot of cardio.i have known some nhb fighters that have done alot of winnyand clen.in the next year i will be doing alot of jiu jitsu tournys and need to cut weight.any suggestions would be great.fills good being a newbie on this site.