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07-20-2005, 11:51 PM #1Associate Member
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New trends in cycle advice
Haven't been on the board in a while but I was suprised by the new thoughts on test only cycles and low doses. Don't get me wrong, I like the differences of opinion this is all new thinking to me. Here is the cycle that I was considering below. Seems a bit overkill by standards today but let me know what you think.
week 1-15 500mgs test E or cyp (bi-weekly inject)
week 1-3 75mgs of prop ED (kickstart)
week 1-15 400mgs of DECA (bi-weekly inject)
week 16-18 75mgs of prop ED (to clear long esters before PCT)
week 11-18 60mgs of anavar (split into two doses througout day)
PCT 3 days after last prop shot
Stats 6'5 250lbs (12%BF)
Training around 6 years
Age 30
Cycle experience...none
Diet...eat big and clean and try to grow like mad.
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07-20-2005, 11:52 PM #2Associate Member
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Normal ancillaries throughout cycle of course....ie Ldex and Nolva if necessary.
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07-21-2005, 12:02 AM #3Anabolic Member
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Personally, I like using multiple compounds for maximum synergy. I like the cycle a-z, and if your diet/training is on, you should explode.
Next cycle, why not run some tren ?
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07-21-2005, 12:22 AM #4Associate Member
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i have to agree tren is the shit even though I have not gained a pound off of it the strenth and hardness is great also I am cutting so I wasent trying for size.
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07-21-2005, 12:35 AM #5Associate Member
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Originally Posted by hatchblack
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07-21-2005, 08:19 AM #6Associate Member
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Originally Posted by keylock
I was really interested in running the Deca for joint preservation.
Var to harden up at the end.
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07-21-2005, 11:17 AM #7VET Retired
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Originally Posted by keylock
The cycle looks good for your hight and size.
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07-21-2005, 11:18 AM #8
thats a killer cycle ... i also say u should run the prop for the first 4 weeks ... but other than that ... have fun growing with all that gear
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07-21-2005, 11:41 AM #9
I have always used at least 3 compounds in my cycles... except once when I did an eq only. If everything is as you say then go for it.
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thanks. I am siked about it.
Time to grow
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07-21-2005, 10:38 PM #11Associate Member
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Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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07-22-2005, 12:13 PM #12Associate Member
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Originally Posted by keylock
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07-22-2005, 01:50 PM #13Associate Member
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Am I wrong to assume that the Deca will help with joint pain a bit...?
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07-22-2005, 01:54 PM #14Originally Posted by hatchblack
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07-22-2005, 02:21 PM #15Originally Posted by keylock
You cannot compare hrmones to such compounds as meth and pot! This is a great combination for his first run. In fact, at 250 12%bf, he is bigger and leaner than some of the members on this board who are ou there giving advice on what to do.
Your cycle looks well thought out, although I agree, 4 weeks for prop. You will love the results.
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Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
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07-22-2005, 02:26 PM #17
At least on the front side. And 500 mg of test is a good base.
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Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
3 days and they I am back on PCT is right for prop....?
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07-27-2005, 07:07 PM #19Associate Member
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Not resurect an old thread, but 2 weeks of prop on the backside should be enough to clear the Deca and Test Enan from my system correct....?
3 days after last prop shot is PCT time...?
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07-27-2005, 07:46 PM #20
Yes I think it is 2 weeks/15 days and 3 days for prop. Thats a great cycle though. And yes deca does lube your joints I use EQ and that works great for me instead of deca.
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07-27-2005, 10:44 PM #21
i think the deca is actually like 3 weeks (18 days actually i believe), might as well wait 3 to be safe so run the prop for 15 days then 3 days after the last shot should line you up good for pct purposes, could even extend the test one week **(if enanthate , otherwise cyp takes 3 to clear so end with deca) so everything is out at the same time.. sorry if this is what you ment up top mark95...i was a little confused.
i think the cycle looks nice, well planned, if you did chose to go test only and use the deca for joints i think you could get away with 100-200 mgs/ wk (i think that is the dose people use for joint support) but hey why not run it like you have planned it looks good, good luck
magicLast edited by magicstick2003; 07-27-2005 at 10:53 PM.
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07-27-2005, 10:49 PM #22
I think that cycle looks pretty solid except for a few little details, all of which were already mentioned above. You will DEFINATELY EXPLODE.
But, I still think its a bit extreme for a first cycle.
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07-27-2005, 10:52 PM #23
That does look like a killer cycle and at your size it would do you well, but why not just run 1 compound to see how you react to it? Maybe throw some var in at the end?
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07-28-2005, 12:40 AM #24Associate Member
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I am not dead set on anything just yet but I think I will tolerate it just fine. My training partner was running the same thing and he put on a little over 22lbs after PCT was complete and I am already 40lbs bigger than he. I think going any less would be kind of a waste but I see what you guys are saying.
I will update you once I get underway.
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07-28-2005, 12:43 AM #25
You're a big dude. 250 @ 12%? Wow, that's all I gotta say.
Hit that cylce up and I can see you hitting the 270 mark. Freak is all I gotta say.
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07-28-2005, 01:20 AM #26
Good cycle, but not a good beginner cycle IMHO.
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07-28-2005, 01:28 AM #27Associate Member
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just want to make sure I have my timing schedules right.
Basically I will be off Deca for a little over 20 days before I start PCT as well as being off Enanthate the same amount of time.
I figure I end both Enathate and Deca in week 15 (on Thursday) pick up the prop on the following Sunday and run that for two solid weeks and then take 3 days off that before starting PCT.
Total cycle time will be just over 18 weeks and I should be able to start PCT 3 days after last shot of prop.
I will be running LDex throughout cycle as well as 10mgs of Nolvadex EOD to maintain good cholesterol profiles.
PCT will consisit of Clomid for 30 days at 150mgs for 5 days, 100mgs for 10 days, and 50mgs for 15 days as well as LDex througout and Nolvadex at 20mgs ED.
I was also going to run Trib at 4g's throughout cycle to attempt to combat testicular atrophy and through PCT as well.
Am I missing anything...?
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07-28-2005, 01:29 AM #28Associate Member
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Originally Posted by magicstick2003
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07-28-2005, 01:32 AM #29Associate Member
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Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL
I may be overshooting my goals here but I fully expect to gain between 20 and 30lbs while keeping 85% of it.
I would love to end up with a solid gain of 20lb of mass after this cycle. I want to explode.
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07-28-2005, 01:35 AM #30Associate Member
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Lastly....this one I know will start a firestorm for all the people on the fence because they think I am running too much!!!!
I have a bunch of Dbol stored up and want to take advantage of the strength gains from that.
What about 3 weeks of Dbol from weeks 4-7 after the prop is finished and before the Var. That will give me 4 weeks off the Dbol before the Var.
**all orals will be accompanied by r-ALA, milk thistle, n-acetlycestine (sp?), etc, etc.**
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bump for replies
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07-28-2005, 09:35 PM #32Originally Posted by hatchblack
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07-28-2005, 09:37 PM #33Originally Posted by hatchblack
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07-29-2005, 12:37 AM #34Associate Member
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I am just trying to get the timing of this transition from Test E and Deca to Prop and finally to PCT just right.
If I run Deca through week 15, Test E through week 16, I was planning on starting prop on the following Sunday after the last Test E shot (previous Thrusday) and running prop for 7 or 14 days.
If I run prop for 7 days after the last Test E shot and start PCT 3 days after last prop shot that would give me aproximately 13 days off of the Test E and 20 days off the Deca.
How does that timing sound for clearing the Deca and Test out of my system before the PCT...?
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07-29-2005, 12:49 AM #35Originally Posted by hatchblack
other then that your still up to code..
have fun
~DV~
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Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
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bump for responses to shot timing....?
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