Nolvadex / Tamoxifen Any benefit when cutting?

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07-24-2005, 01:52 PM
oldandgrim

Nolvadex / Tamoxifen Any benefit when cutting?

Nolvadex / Tamoxifen Any benefit when cutting?

As it says above, I am currently cutting and I have some Nolvadex left. Would it be any use taking it while I am cutting?
07-24-2005, 02:52 PM
abstrack

If you are taking AAS then yes. If you are not taking and AAS then no.
07-24-2005, 02:53 PM
QuieTSToRM33

agree with abstrack
07-24-2005, 02:59 PM
Bryan2

An AI such as letro/arimidex is what you are looking for
07-24-2005, 03:09 PM
abstrack

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Originally Posted by Bryan2

An AI such as letro/arimidex is what you are looking for

What for? What would letro and arimidex do for someone who is just simply cutting by means of diet/cardio. Do they have an adverse effect on fat storage or motabalism that I am missing?

Dont get me wrong I am just curious since I have never herd of those two being used for cutting.
07-24-2005, 03:13 PM
G-Force

i have never heard of nolva being used with a cutting cycle
i only really use it in PCT as i dont suffer from gyno,
may give it a try a 10mg ED
07-24-2005, 03:18 PM
beenie

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandgrim

Nolvadex / Tamoxifen Any benefit when cutting?

As it says above, I am currently cutting and I have some Nolvadex left. Would it be any use taking it while I am cutting?

If you are taking test than you should always take nolva. Its an anti-estrogen, and without it you will likely get gyno. I almost always have problems when cycling with gyno and often bump it to 20mg/day.

What does your cycle look like?

PS.
Just re-read your post. You are talking about taking Nolva while NOT on a cycle. Why would you?
07-24-2005, 03:23 PM
MickyBlues

I have have some Nolvadex, I am currently doing Tren & winny. Should I start taking some with my cycle? I was going to use it only for PCT.
07-24-2005, 03:23 PM
beenie

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Originally Posted by johan

This is highly individual though. I can run one sust amp eod, 100mg drol and deca without getting gyno symptoms totaly without any anti estrogens so I think its somethign ever person have to figure out for themself.

You don't need any anti-estrogens Johan? Amazing!

I was doing 400mg deca 500mg sust a few months ago and needed to go from 10 to 20. Even then, I was having a bit of bitch tit. My cycle is over for a while and everything is normal again, but it was not pleasant during the cycle.
07-24-2005, 03:35 PM
MickyBlues

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Originally Posted by johan

neither of those turns into estrogen so a anti e isnt needed.

Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks!
07-24-2005, 07:37 PM
chris2wire

at 700mg a week ive never needed an anti-E either, though Im a firm believer that high estrogen causes increased fat storage so Ive started to take one anyways.
07-24-2005, 08:11 PM
Bryan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by abstrack

What for? What would letro and arimidex do for someone who is just simply cutting by means of diet/cardio. Do they have an adverse effect on fat storage or motabalism that I am missing?

Dont get me wrong I am just curious since I have never herd of those two being used for cutting.

Actually it works quite well in relation to fat loss as it provides an increase in natty testosterone and helps get rid of water from the sub q layers that estrogen is known to trap.

It provides a nice boost stricly in part to lowered estrogen levels and increased test levels.
07-24-2005, 11:14 PM
Drummerboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan2

Actually it works quite well in relation to fat loss as it provides an increase in natty testosterone and helps get rid of water from the sub q layers that estrogen is known to trap.

It provides a nice boost stricly in part to lowered estrogen levels and increased test levels.

:0jackson: i agree
07-25-2005, 04:26 AM
beenie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan2

Actually it works quite well in relation to fat loss as it provides an increase in natty testosterone and helps get rid of water from the sub q layers that estrogen is known to trap.

It provides a nice boost stricly in part to lowered estrogen levels and increased test levels.

The part that I don't understrand in your explanation has to do with estrogen levels. If you are not on a cycle, I think estrogen levels are ordinarily very low in makes to begin with. How can you lower something that is not present in the first place?

And, as far as icreasing natty test, wouldn't clomid be better? That's the reason why I have always taken it post cycle.